As of this past January (2015), they were giving FIV vaccinations in combo with distemper, and a couple others, I think rabies, and is there a parvo one or something? I will ask next time I am there. This is in Osseo, WI.
I would hope shelters would have this knowledge. Otherwise they are very quick to euthanize. :( From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley S Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 2:11 AM To: felvtalk <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) I hope no one in still giving combo vaccinations for FIV. My understanding is that the FIV vaccine (but not the FELV vaccine) will cause a cat to test FIV+ for lifetime. In the sad occasion kitty should get out and taken to a shelter, he will test FIV+ and that is not a good thing for a cat in a shelter. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net <mailto:ar...@centurytel.net> > wrote: So happy that the older cats did not get it - somewhere I read that after 11 months of age their immune system can usually fend it off. Another misconception that I had, when I took a stray cat in to be spayed and vaccinated, was that the "combo" vaccination they use for distemper, rabies, FIV and something else does not include a vaccination for FeLV. At that time, I had no idea that FIV and FeLV were two different things. (Of course I thought ONE distemper shot as kitten was all you needed to give also.) But my point is -- it would be nice to have it all explained to you, and maybe some vet clinics do, but ours does not. Years ago I had an orange kitty named Scotchy that died right after being given a rabies vaccination too. They said it was rare. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Lee Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Not sure my emails are going through. However I have to tell everyone that FeLv is not the horridly contagious disease that most vets would have us believe. Three years ago to the month my little Honey Bunny passed away from an active and virulent case of feline leukemia. Before we could try much of anything her system shut down. My vet is not a specialist and his take on it was that once leukemia is active nothing much can be done. Bunny was s cat who had tested positive at first so I kept her isolated for a month in a separate room. She was under a year old at the time of rescue and first test. On retesting, she had turned negative. However, I isolated her for another month just to be sure. Still negative so I moved her in with Samson and Delilah who both share my bedroom. Exactly a year later when Bunny was two years old, I noticed she was not scarfing down food as she had been doing. She grew lethargic and disinterested in playing and being mischievous. In a matter of three weeks she went from healthy to dead. The misery was that both Samson and Delilah had been thoroughly exposed. There is somewhat of a happy side of this sad story. It has been three years since their exposure and I recently tested both cats. They are both negative. My vet told me that most healthy, non stressed, well fed cats can survive an exposure such as Sam and Dee had without catching the disease. The groups in most danger are cats under a year old, stressed feral cats who have not been fixed and elderly cats who are experiencing health issues. On Oct 22, 2015 11:07 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com <mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > You may be right Ardy, as to their motivation, but in my case, I was > > allowed to spend close to $10,000 when all treatments were tallied up, for > > worthless ineffective treatment, until I accidentally hit upon the > > Winstrol, with a cost of something like 50 cents per pill. Of course they > > were telling me the whole time to let him go, and that I needed to consider > > his “quality of life” (ie – I was being selfish and immoral), and it was > > only my insistence that I intended to try every feasible option to save my > > cat... > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson > > Sent: October-22-15 10:50 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for this information Amani. > > > > Possibly another reason they don’t want to treat FeLV+ cats is that they > > somehow feel “getting rid” of them is helping to not spread the disease. My > > thought is that most spreading is probably done from mother cat to baby, > > and of course in those rare homes that have very large numbers of > > poorly-cared-for cats. They are not really trusting owners of FeLV+ cats to > > be responsible enough to not allow it to spread. I have also now read that > > cats that are over 11 months of age probably have enough of an immune > > system to not get the disease even if they are near positive cats. Although > > I would not take that chance and ever let them run outdoors or be around > > other cats. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ardy > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley > > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:03 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > > > > > Arty, again, this is an email I tried to post early this morning, but for > > some reason it didn’t go through to the Listserve, so I am reposting: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Amani Oakley > > Sent: October-21-15 11:51 AM > > To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> ' > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > > > > > Arty, the Winstrol is an anabolic steroid so it really just works by > > bulking up the body, repairing damaged tissue, and also has a strong > > ability to treat serious anemia by working directly on the red blood cell > > producing cells in the bone marrow and erythropoietin production in the > > kidneys. Erythropoietin is the substance that the body produces that tells > > it to make more red cells. > > > > > > > > It is NOT the same kind of steroid as prednisolone, etc., so it can be used > > with other types of steroids, with pain meds and with antibiotics, etc., > > without interfering with their activity. > > > > > > > > My frustration comes from the fact that this drug was basically pulled > > because it is associated with doping scandals in professional athletes > > (they use it to become stronger and faster and to heal and recover from > > workouts faster), so it became a drug whose name you can’t mention and is > > tough to get sometimes. Also, there was a scientific study suggesting liver > > damage with its use, but the rest of the scientific literature just doesn’t > > seem to have borne this out and it certainly isn’t my experience. So here > > we have this relatively inexpensive, fairly effective option, with little > > downside risk, and quick effects usually, and the vets would rather tell us > > there is no hope and to euthanize our cats, than suggest this medication. > > > > > > > > I just don’t get it, and I have some very good friends who are high up in > > the echelons of the vet community, so believe me when I tell you that I > > have had this discussion on many occasions! > > > > > > > > Amani > > > > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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