Hi Rachel

I AM working today. I got up late since in fact, I was working until about 4:30 
a.m. That’s one thing about working for myself (with just my husband as my 
partner). There is only this single perk I have and that is that I don’t get up 
early since I generally work all night. I figure since I’m the boss, I don’t 
have to justify my hours to anyone else! Of course, if I have to go to court 
for motions or trials, then I have to get up early like the rest of the world, 
but frankly, when I am in court, I generally don’t go to bed at all. Fun, eh? 
And to think that one of the reasons I left the field of Medical Laboratory 
Technology and decided to be a lawyer was that I hated having to do midnight 
shifts. Now, it’s not a “shift”. I’m just up ALL night and work all day TOO.

Rachel, what I would love to do is have someone way smarter than me when it 
comes to websites, develop a website where we can collect the information about 
Winstrol. It is absolutely essential for us to collect credible objective 
scientific information if we are going to convince the vets to stop their 
ridiculous crusade against Winstrol. At worst, the drug may end up not being 
very effective in a particular case, but it isn’t a demon drug to be avoided at 
all costs, and frankly, I suspect that starting the Winstrol sooner would 
likely give the best outcome. I think, generally speaking, that when Winstrol 
is finally used, the cat is in pretty bad shape, all else has failed, and we 
are asking for a miracle. I have a lot of faith in Winstrol, but I know full 
well it doesn’t always work. However, I have used it and gotten amazing results 
in circumstances where the vets have told me that there is nothing they have to 
offer, and nothing will work. So why not try the Winstrol? I simply don’t get 
the reluctance.

I would love to get Winstrol for everyone and I am trying to keep track of 
anyone who lets me know they have used it and how they obtained it. 
Unfortunately, often people will not respond with that information when I ask. 
Perhaps they suddenly wonder if I am a fed, posing as a cat-lover to trap 
unwary online folks, looking to save their babies. And I wouldn’t want to 
expose my vet to criticism from colleagues. I think she is less of a skeptic 
than most, because I let her know what I have seen, but she came in mid-way 
during my ordeal with Zander. She wasn’t the first vet who diagnosed him and 
she never saw how bad he was because by then, I was at the ER clinic. However, 
she allowed me to try various medications regimes, and allowed me to take the 
weekly blood work while I assessed the different treatment modalities to 
determine what was working and what wasn’t. She saw Zander improve and was 
extremely impressed, but you know, once he recovered from what was deemed to be 
a death sentence, and after there was some daylight between the crisis and his 
current excellent condition, vets started to suggest to me that maybe it wasn’t 
FeLV after all. REALLY frustrating. There is no way to convince someone who 
insists on not being convinced – even with weekly lab results in hand and 
before and after lab results. Anyway, all that to say that if push comes to 
shove, I think my vet believes that the Winstrol saved Zander, but if 
confronted by other vets, I am sure she would temper her comments so she 
doesn’t appear foolish and out of step to them.

Ardy was generous with her information about where she was able to obtain the 
Winstrol and shared it with everyone, and it seems to me that this may be the 
most promising route. The trouble isn’t getting the Winstrol once you have a 
prescription – the problem is getting that prescription from your vet. Once you 
have that, you can order the medication online from a compounding pharmacy and 
Ardy let us know about the one she used which shipped to her from another state.

I think each of us who wants to try out the Winstrol, needs to have a talk with 
our vets, and explain to them that they are providing little in the way of 
options except euthanasia, and a trial of Winstrol is inexpensive and certainly 
not painful to the cat, so rather than simply putting the cat down, why not 
trying the Winstrol. Tell them that you understand the risk of liver damage, 
and again, given the alternative, you accept and recognize that risk but it is 
your understanding that while the liver enzymes often rise with the use of 
Winstrol, there is no evidence or scientific trials linking the use of Winstrol 
to any lasting liver damage. In the end, you are in charge. Of course the vet 
can refuse to provide the Winstrol and can decide he/she doesn’t want you for a 
client, so remain calm and not belligerent if you want to avoid that outcome. I 
would like to think that most vets, when faced with a logical, measured 
decision to try a specific course of treatment, would assist even if you don’t 
have their full support on the chosen treatment.

I think that once we have some helpful vet names, these also can be shared so 
people know where they can go where they will get the support they need for 
their FeLV cats. If anyone is situated near Toronto, Ontario, Canada, I am 
happy to provide them with my vet’s name and location. She is very kind, really 
cares about my cats, and respects my input very much, so we get along just 
fine. I have moved away from where the clinic is located and now have to travel 
close to an hour to take my cats there, but I just feel up to going through the 
same battle with another vet right now, so I’ll stick to the ones who have 
known me for decades and respect my decisions.

Remember too that I used a number of medications with the Winstrol. I used 
prednisone, Winstrol, metoclopramide (Zander seemed to have problems passing 
stool for a while and research online shows that FeLV affects the intestinal 
walls as well – metoclopramide was VERY helpful to get the stool moving 
regularly and I believe without the stool sitting still in one area of the 
intestinal tract, it took away the environment which encouraged the intestinal 
walls to be attacked and become inflamed), and Doxycycline. When I was trying 
help Ardy with Tigger, her vet wanted Tigger on Convenia and so as to “pick our 
battles”, I told Ardy to accept the Convenia instead of the Doxycyclne and we 
would play it by ear. I knew of course that antibiotics don’t kill viruses, and 
I couldn’t remember why Doxycycline was so important. I figured I had used it 
for covering for potential secondary infections. However, after seeing some 
blasts showing up on the blood work, I reconsidered and remembered that 
Doxycycline actually works to block RNA synthesis, which is how the virus 
reproduces, so while the Winstrol was working to restore progenitor cells in 
the bone marrow to get new blood cells produced, the Doxycycline was blocking 
the virus from continuing to reproduce unchecked.

And Rachel – I am not “that” kind of a lawyer, so I can’t defend you from a 
drug charge, but I do have contacts across the U.S., so I promise to get you 
help should you end up in trouble because of my preaching about Winstrol☺. I am 
a medical malpractice lawyer - Google me – I figured I would put my scientific 
and medical knowledge to good use when I left the medical field behind.

See – not all lawyers are bad!

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: May-14-16 7:48 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Amani thoughts for Winstrol

Good Morning Amani,

I hope you are not working today, lawyers need QOL too!

I have been thinking about Winstrol and how hard it is for people to get their 
vets to get on board and how hard it is to find it. So I was thinking that 
maybe since you are the go to person for those of us looking to go this route, 
you could start a file of those who have tried it along with blood test results 
and notes or letters from vets, along with places we find that make Winstrol. 
You could then send the file to people to take with them to their vets. The 
more vets that try it and see results the more likely they are to try it again 
and share their experience with other vets.

My second option would be that I could become a Winstrol kitty drug dealer, and 
if I got caught you could defend me. Then we could write a book about it.

Option one sounds a little more promising though.

Rachel

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