Hi Robert, I am so glad you saved those babies. It really stinks that you are having problems so soon.
You have come to the right place to get the support and help you need. I am trying to help Amani set up a web site where we can track the outcomes of those who use Winstrol. List vets that have used it in the past. And also the compounding pharmacies that supply it. We don't have a website guru on here that I know of so I am just in the research stages of figuring out the best option. My kitty Tucker has cancer so that is what I am dealing with right now. But I can tell you if I find myself with another Felv kitty what I would do the next time. As we all know, after getting the diagnosis, and spending hours on line, researching, some of us (me) crying while doing it. There are three bad things that could possibly happen. Chronic infections, cancer, and anemia. So I have decided my new favorite saying will be "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". The thing I would do above all else is find something to boost the immunity, and I would give it all of the time in sickness and in health. There are a lot of quality companies out there who sell good products I use Pet Wellbeing's Life Gold now for Tucker. Another thing I would do is give my kitty curcumin. It is a proven cancer fighter and has many other health benefits as well. I even read a research document that showed it helped reduce the occurrence and size of struvite crystals ( which has always been a concern for me). I read research that shows kitties absorb it better than humans or dogs so they get even more benefit from it. I am using one from Thorn e Research for pets. The other thing I would do is find something which protects against anemia (I haven't found it yet as I have just started looking into options). Blackstrap molasses is what I have found with awesome results for humans, but I only found one place that mentioned it for cats, which is not good enough so the search continues. As far as the uti, unfortunately they can be chronic in even non felv cats. I am using two products with Tucker who has always had issues, one is NVH Tripsy and my newest find is Solid Gold Berry Balance. So if you keep having problems you might want to look into a preventative for that as well. Good luck finding your new vet, maybe you can check Yelp or ask friends and neighbors, you don't want to spend your money and end up with another dud. Rachel Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2016, at 2:30 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net> wrote: > > > I'm new to the list and trying to catch up with some of the > threads...particularly with regard to Winstrol/Doxy combination... Are any > of you actually using this combination currently??... If so, are you > administering it > Sub Q, IM or orally?? Also wondering if the pushback from vets with regard > to prescribing it has to do with the fact that it is one of the more popular > anabolics used by body builders and athletes....?? > > Also...... anyone have any information re: Eye Problems in FeLV+ Kitties ( > other than the frequently occurring sequlae to Herpes Virus infection).... > I recently adopted 2 FeLV+ youngsters ( 7 and 9 months) from the shelter > where I volunteer ( couldn't stand the idea of their living their lives in > isolation in a 3x3 enclosure).. I bit off a LOT more than I anticipated as > one has not been fully well since the day I brought him home but, until > recently, he was eating Heartily and playing mightily despite a chronic > URI.... Last week he developed some cloudiness in his L eye lenses and what > appear to be burst capillaries.... The Vet ( I allowed the shelter to pay > for this particular visit as I will go broke if I bring him as often as I > might be inclined.... the cats are uninsurable by all the pet insurance > companies I contacted).... that vet offered little in the way of DX...just > said " sometimes this happens to FeLV+ cats and prescribed Triple Antibiotic > Ocular Ointment with Cortisone and Amoxi 2x daily ( running 103.2 temp)..... Frankly I think the guy hardly even looked at my guy and I am going to have to take him elsewhere on my own dime again to get a real DX and Tx suggestions.( if I go on the shelters dime he is presented as a foster and only the shelter are privy to detailed explanations and even then very little as they get a very discounted rate).... This is my first experience with FeLV and I have been reading vocaciously.... I am not one who is going to employ heroic measures to keep my guys alive unless they won't cause ANY discomfort to them... I'm already providing them a much better life than they might have had and a LOT more love and attention than they ever would have known..... Still.... his eye looks " angry " and I have no way to tell if it is causing him pain...... Making an appt. to have blood work done to get a baseline on his HCT,WBC's and Platelets.... Gums appear to still be red and his paw pads have no t gotten lighter so I am hopeful that he is not severely anemic.... But have NO idea what might have caused the blood in his eye..... also there is some clear discharge which I wipe away several times during the day....... Any thoughts welcome... > > Bob > Warwick NY > >> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: >> >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Amani thoughts for Winstrol (dlg...@windstream.net) >> 2. Re: Kokonut Felv+ (dlg...@windstream.net) >> 3. Re: Cat Sanctuary (dlg...@windstream.net) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 10:55:23 -0500 >> From: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amani thoughts for Winstrol >> Message-ID: <20160516115523.U40WC.1807.root@pamxwww03-z01> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> GOOD VET! >> >> ---- Rachel Dagner wrote: >>> When I brought Tucker home from work he had an infection on his leg and I >>> took him to get treated, he had a chip so we found out he didn't need shots >>> for six months. When I took him for shots she me if I wanted the felv >>> vaccine because I used to let him go outside too. We tested him first and >>> it came back positive :(. She told me he could live three months or a long >>> normal life there was just no telling. She never even said the word >>> euthanize. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 15, 2016, at 5:45 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I really feel blessed because my vet said 2 choices, euthansia or keep >>> Annie, treat her and hope. I would have walked out the door and never >>> returned if he only had one solution. Find another vet. >>> >>> >>> ---- Ardy Robertson wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> If I can jump in on the website idea, I believe that would help people, >>>> especially people like me who had no experience with FeLV. Suddenly you >>>> are told one of your kitties has FeLV virus, and you are being told there >>>> are no options other than euthanasia. My vets even wanted me to go home >>>> and get my other two cats and bring them in that day for euthanizing! I >>>> said ?no?! If there was a website that sort of listed a protocol for >>>> treating the FeLV crises, that would be great! One of our vets then >>>> offered Interferon and while I was placing my hopes on that treatment, >>>> believing that the vets wanted Tigger to live and pull out of the crisis >>>> he was in, valuable time was slipping away and Tigg?s blood counts were >>>> taking a dive. They didn?t really explain anything about the blood test >>>> results. I basically had to learn everything from reading online. For >>>> instance I did not know that stress can bring on a crisis. We had brought >>>> a stray into our house, and she was running up be hi >> nd Tigger and biting him hard. His stress from that was high. I also >> learned from reading online that while the FeLV virus spreads to other cats, >> it is hardly ever spread to a cat over 11 months of age because their immune >> system can usually defend them from it. That is also how I found this group >> online. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It was when Amani explained that Winstrol has been shown to turn the bone >>>> marrow back on to producing blood cells, that I decided to take a chance >>>> on it. Then much more time was lost trying to find a way to get Winstrol, >>>> also known as Stanozolol. I found a source in Canada, but they were not >>>> able to ship into the US. I live in Wisconsin, so I had to find a source >>>> in the US. Again, as a novice, I did not have the information I needed to >>>> make any meaningful decisions. I happen to be computer-literate so I was >>>> able to do the searching for ways to get Winstrol etc., I shudder to think >>>> what a loving cat owner who just doesn?t happen to be able to find things >>>> online easily, would do! So the need for information is critical??both for >>>> cat owners, and eventually to change the minds of the veterinary >>>> community! I hope one day, they will actually SUGGEST it to cat parents. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If a website could ever become a reality, I would gladly share Tigger?s >>>> treatment details, along with his blood test results. Even though we >>>> eventually lost him, I feel I was given some additional time with him ? >>>> and it was good quality time with him feeling very good, and playful most >>>> of the time. I also feel he may have pulled through this particular crisis >>>> if I had started this treatment regime as soon as I knew he was FeLV >>>> positive. I could be wrong, but I think the FeLV virus sometimes sits >>>> dormant in the cat, waiting for some period of stress in the cat?s life, >>>> and then it pops up and attacks in varying ways. If the owner is able to >>>> get the cat through that particular crisis, then I think it sometimes >>>> backs off again, possibly for very long periods, especially if the cat?s >>>> stress levels can be kept low. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Ardy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Rachel Dagner >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 10:34 AM >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amani thoughts for Winstrol >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have googled you, you are the only one on here that I can put a face to >>>> a name! Can we post pictures when we send messages? >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, not all lawyers are bad. Lol I am glad you do something you believe >>>> in and that is fulfilling and helps people. Probably makes all of the >>>> hours worth it. That and you love kitties and help people on here with >>>> theirs when you have so little time tells me you are a wonderful person >>>> with a huge heart and a beautiful soul. >>>> >>>> >>>> A web site would be awesome, somewhere to send people for information >>>> instead of having to start over completely with a new person. I know there >>>> are places where you can do free websites. I have no idea how to do one. >>>> But I am good at researching and figuring things out, so it's something we >>>> could look at. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 14, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Amani Oakley > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Rachel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I AM working today. I got up late since in fact, I was working until about >>>> 4:30 a.m. That?s one thing about working for myself (with just my husband >>>> as my partner). There is only this single perk I have and that is that I >>>> don?t get up early since I generally work all night. I figure since I?m >>>> the boss, I don?t have to justify my hours to anyone else! Of course, if I >>>> have to go to court for motions or trials, then I have to get up early >>>> like the rest of the world, but frankly, when I am in court, I generally >>>> don?t go to bed at all. Fun, eh? And to think that one of the reasons I >>>> left the field of Medical Laboratory Technology and decided to be a lawyer >>>> was that I hated having to do midnight shifts. Now, it?s not a ?shift?. >>>> I?m just up ALL night and work all day TOO. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rachel, what I would love to do is have someone way smarter than me when >>>> it comes to websites, develop a website where we can collect the >>>> information about Winstrol. It is absolutely essential for us to collect >>>> credible objective scientific information if we are going to convince the >>>> vets to stop their ridiculous crusade against Winstrol. At worst, the drug >>>> may end up not being very effective in a particular case, but it isn?t a >>>> demon drug to be avoided at all costs, and frankly, I suspect that >>>> starting the Winstrol sooner would likely give the best outcome. I think, >>>> generally speaking, that when Winstrol is finally used, the cat is in >>>> pretty bad shape, all else has failed, and we are asking for a miracle. I >>>> have a lot of faith in Winstrol, but I know full well it doesn?t always >>>> work. However, I have used it and gotten amazing results in circumstances >>>> where the vets have told me that there is nothing they have to offer, and >>>> nothing will work. So why not try the Winstrol? I >> simply don?t get the reluctance. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I would love to get Winstrol for everyone and I am trying to keep track of >>>> anyone who lets me know they have used it and how they obtained it. >>>> Unfortunately, often people will not respond with that information when I >>>> ask. Perhaps they suddenly wonder if I am a fed, posing as a cat-lover to >>>> trap unwary online folks, looking to save their babies. And I wouldn?t >>>> want to expose my vet to criticism from colleagues. I think she is less of >>>> a skeptic than most, because I let her know what I have seen, but she came >>>> in mid-way during my ordeal with Zander. She wasn?t the first vet who >>>> diagnosed him and she never saw how bad he was because by then, I was at >>>> the ER clinic. However, she allowed me to try various medications regimes, >>>> and allowed me to take the weekly blood work while I assessed the >>>> different treatment modalities to determine what was working and what >>>> wasn?t. She saw Zander improve and was extremely impressed, but you know, >>>> once he recovered from what was deemed to be a >> death sentence, and after there was some daylight between the crisis and his >> current excellent condition, vets started to suggest to me that maybe it >> wasn?t FeLV after all. REALLY frustrating. There is no way to convince >> someone who insists on not being convinced ? even with weekly lab results in >> hand and before and after lab results. Anyway, all that to say that if push >> comes to shove, I think my vet believes that the Winstrol saved Zander, but >> if confronted by other vets, I am sure she would temper her comments so she >> doesn?t appear foolish and out of step to them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ardy was generous with her information about where she was able to obtain >>>> the Winstrol and shared it with everyone, and it seems to me that this may >>>> be the most promising route. The trouble isn?t getting the Winstrol once >>>> you have a prescription ? the problem is getting that prescription from >>>> your vet. Once you have that, you can order the medication online from a >>>> compounding pharmacy and Ardy let us know about the one she used which >>>> shipped to her from another state. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think each of us who wants to try out the Winstrol, needs to have a talk >>>> with our vets, and explain to them that they are providing little in the >>>> way of options except euthanasia, and a trial of Winstrol is inexpensive >>>> and certainly not painful to the cat, so rather than simply putting the >>>> cat down, why not trying the Winstrol. Tell them that you understand the >>>> risk of liver damage, and again, given the alternative, you accept and >>>> recognize that risk but it is your understanding that while the liver >>>> enzymes often rise with the use of Winstrol, there is no evidence or >>>> scientific trials linking the use of Winstrol to any lasting liver damage. >>>> In the end, you are in charge. Of course the vet can refuse to provide the >>>> Winstrol and can decide he/she doesn?t want you for a client, so remain >>>> calm and not belligerent if you want to avoid that outcome. I would like >>>> to think that most vets, when faced with a logical, measured decision to >>>> try a specific course of treatment, would a >> ssist even if you don?t have their full support on the chosen treatment. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think that once we have some helpful vet names, these also can be shared >>>> so people know where they can go where they will get the support they need >>>> for their FeLV cats. If anyone is situated near Toronto, Ontario, Canada, >>>> I am happy to provide them with my vet?s name and location. She is very >>>> kind, really cares about my cats, and respects my input very much, so we >>>> get along just fine. I have moved away from where the clinic is located >>>> and now have to travel close to an hour to take my cats there, but I just >>>> feel up to going through the same battle with another vet right now, so >>>> I?ll stick to the ones who have known me for decades and respect my >>>> decisions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Remember too that I used a number of medications with the Winstrol. I used >>>> prednisone, Winstrol, metoclopramide (Zander seemed to have problems >>>> passing stool for a while and research online shows that FeLV affects the >>>> intestinal walls as well ? metoclopramide was VERY helpful to get the >>>> stool moving regularly and I believe without the stool sitting still in >>>> one area of the intestinal tract, it took away the environment which >>>> encouraged the intestinal walls to be attacked and become inflamed), and >>>> Doxycycline. When I was trying help Ardy with Tigger, her vet wanted >>>> Tigger on Convenia and so as to ?pick our battles?, I told Ardy to accept >>>> the Convenia instead of the Doxycyclne and we would play it by ear. I knew >>>> of course that antibiotics don?t kill viruses, and I couldn?t remember why >>>> Doxycycline was so important. I figured I had used it for covering for >>>> potential secondary infections. However, after seeing some blasts showing >>>> up on the blood work, I reconsidered and reme mb >> ered that Doxycycline actually works to block RNA synthesis, which is how >> the virus reproduces, so while the Winstrol was working to restore >> progenitor cells in the bone marrow to get new blood cells produced, the >> Doxycycline was blocking the virus from continuing to reproduce unchecked. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And Rachel ? I am not ?that? kind of a lawyer, so I can?t defend you from >>>> a drug charge, but I do have contacts across the U.S., so I promise to get >>>> you help should you end up in trouble because of my preaching about >>>> Winstrol:). I am a medical malpractice lawyer - Google me ? I figured I >>>> would put my scientific and medical knowledge to good use when I left the >>>> medical field behind. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> See ? not all lawyers are bad! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Rachel Dagner >>>> Sent: May-14-16 7:48 AM >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Amani thoughts for >>>> Winstrol >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Good Morning Amani, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I hope you are not working today, lawyers need QOL too! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have been thinking about Winstrol and how hard it is for people to get >>>> their vets to get on board and how hard it is to find it. So I was >>>> thinking that maybe since you are the go to person for those of us looking >>>> to go this route, you could start a file of those who have tried it along >>>> with blood test results and notes or letters from vets, along with places >>>> we find that make Winstrol. You could then send the file to people to take >>>> with them to their vets. The more vets that try it and see results the >>>> more likely they are to try it again and share their experience with other >>>> vets. >>>> >>>> >>>> My second option would be that I could become a Winstrol kitty drug >>>> dealer, and if I got caught you could defend me. Then we could write a >>>> book about it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Option one sounds a little more promising though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rachel >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:02:35 -0500 >> From: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kokonut Felv+ >> Message-ID: <20160516120235.PJPAU.1851.root@pamxwww03-z01> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> RE: stool, I give my guys about 1/4 teaspoon coconut oil every day. They >> ask for it. I don't have as much problem with hairballs since we started >> this. >> >> >> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>> Olivia >>> >>> It is a slow process. Once you get a bit of food into Kokonuts, she will >>> hopefully start feeling better. Keep feeding her small amounts at multiple >>> times of the day, if you can. Ask the vet to give her subcutaneous fluids >>> or to show you how to do it at home (t is pretty easy). She is probably >>> dehydrated as well as not eating well. Good for you to get the Pedialyte >>> into her - that is exactly what she needs - electrolytes - but with >>> subcutaneous fluids, there is a much faster uptake of the fluids, >>> body-wide, then if it is given orally. >>> See if her stool is coming out regularly. If not, consider asking the vet >>> for Metoclopromide. As I mentioned in another post, FeLV often negatively >>> impacts the intestinal tract and causes the stool to slow down. The >>> Metoclopromide helps to empty the stomach and increases peristaltic action >>> which moves the stool along and this makes the cat feel a bit better after >>> a meal. >>> >>> I strongly suggest the Winstrol if nothing else but to increase appetite >>> and feeling better. That boost alone will go miles to helping your cat >>> fight this battle. >>> >>> Amani >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of . . >>> Sent: May-15-16 12:46 PM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kokonut Felv+ >>> >>> How long has anyone ever syringe fed a cat . How long will it take a cat to >>> feel better weeks ,months? Please share thanks >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 15, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Rachel Dagner wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Olivia, >>>> So sorry your baby isn't feeling good. Syringe feeding in very important >>>> are you using the ad hills food? I know it's hard to get a lot of food in >>>> and this is high calorie. When I was syringe feeding Tucker I took him to >>>> get fluids under the skin a couple of times and my vet only charges $14 to >>>> do it. My thoughts are that vets treat the symptoms but sometimes forget >>>> that we also need to treat the underlying problems. Which in our case is >>>> felv which causes a poor immune system. I would say find something to >>>> boost the immune system as well. Since you are syringing you can just add >>>> supplements right to the food. I syringe Tucker a tiny bit of food twice >>>> everyday mixed with his supplements. My suggestion would be if cost is an >>>> issue to try something like Life Gold immunity. It equals out to about $10 >>>> a month, if you have deeper pockets I would do Vitality Science Advanced >>>> Immune Support, both of these companies offer a ninety day money back >>>> guarantee. You can do some resear ch on products look and the ingredients and find something you feel comfortable with. I would give supplements not only while sick but as a maintenance to keep my kitties immune system strong, and fighting. I hope kokonut feels better soon and starts eating on her own. Keep us posted! >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On May 14, 2016, at 9:56 PM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Try baby food, just make sure it has no onion or garlic in it. >>>>> >>>>> ---- Miss Olivia Valencia wrote: >>>>>> My cat is Kokonut 1/yo. She is Felv+. She got ill the other day, she had >>>>>> a fever of 105. took her to vet . The vet gave her metacam,doxycycline & >>>>>> depo medrol Her fever has come down a little. But she hasn't been eating >>>>>> & just been laying in the same spot for the last couple of days. My >>>>>> sister has been syringe feeding & hydrating her & also giving her some >>>>>> pedialyte. Any other recommendations-For food & staying hydrating? >>>>>> frown emoticon has anybody else experienced this? whats to be expected? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:15:20 -0500 >> From: To: Amy , felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary >> Message-ID: <20160516121520.SLLRS.1918.root@pamxwww03-z01> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GET PEOPLE TO NEUTER AND SPAY, THEN THERE WOULD BE >> NO STRAYS. >> >> ---- Amy wrote: >>> Lorrie, >>> That sounds amazing! I do cat rescue in Rochester, NY and we are a no-kill >>> rescue so when we get in leuk pos kitties, we do our best to find places >>> for them to go. We don't euthanize like so many of the groups do. I have >>> positives of my own but I am at capacity in my home. We can keep the FIV >>> positives at our building but not the leuk positives because we are cage >>> free and all of our rooms are full with non-contagious cats. We don't get >>> them in often but am I able to contact you to see if you are able to help >>> if we do get a leuk pos? We always hold them at least 30 days to restest >>> and often 60 or 90 days and we run both tests, the ELISA and the IFA to >>> make sure they aren't going to fight it off first. So far, most of the ones >>> we have taken in have converted after some time. We are always looking for >>> more options on the rare occasion we do get one in that remains positive >>> and tests positive on both the ELISA and IFA. Thanks for helping these >>> kitties!!!! >>> Let me know!Thanks Amy >>> >>> From: Lorrie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 15, >>> 2016 6:56 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary >>> >>>> >>>> ? ? Lorrie, >>>> >>>> ? ? Do you have pictures?? I would love to see what you've done! >>>> >>>> ? ? Kat (Mew Jersey) >>> >>> Hi Kat, I was born in Morristown, "Mew" Jersey. >>> >>> >>> I only have photos of the outside of my sanctuary and the grassy lot >>> next door where I have a small, heated, building for ferals, and a >>> big shade tree. I don't think they let us send photos to the group, >>> but if you want to see it I can send it to you. However, outside you >>> just see a two story brick building not the inside. >>> - >>> >>> It's really difficult to take photos of the inside because I can't >>> get back far enough in each room to really show what I've done. >>> - >>> >>> My cat sanctuary is two stories and a basement.? Downstairs are 5 >>> rooms, including two rooms with wire doors for introduction or >>> isolation. My live-in caretaker has her own bedroom, a large kitchen, >>> full bathroom and a half bath.? The cats have access to every room >>> and my caretaker lets them sleep with her. She spoils them rotten. >>> They (cats & caretaker) all have a couch, chairs, and kitty kondos. >>> There is a glass front door and window perches so they can look >>> outside. >>> >>> >>> The cats are NOT in cages, they have the run of the downstairs and >>> upstairs rooms.? The older cats are downstairs, and adoptable young >>> cats and kittens are upstairs which is also designed just for them. >>> Upstairs are 4 large kitty kondos, 2 people chairs, many cozy cat >>> beds, and a wall-walk with two tunnels that goes all around the >>> walls. There are 4 rooms upstairs, and a laundry room. >>> >>> Lorrie >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 47 >> **************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
