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1. Re: Eye Problems and Prednisolone.... (Maira Favela)
2. Re: Eye Problems and Prednisolone.... (Maira Favela)
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 17:29:51 -0700
From: Maira Favela To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....
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O.k.. Then, opt for natural, bio degradable cleaning products that
will do
the same thing, while keeping your cats safe. ?
On Sep 25, 2016 4:44 PM, "kat" wrote:
Just a caveat on cleaning - do not use lysol or pine-sol - they
contain
phenol which can be toxic to cats & birds.
Also, stay away from essential oils for cat & birds.
Kat (Mew Jersey)
*Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM
*From:* "Maira Favela" *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....
Try researching natural suppliments or remedies on line. Also, have
you
considered seeing a holistic vetnerian? I have not been to one, but i
have
read and heard about them in the internet. Try also using curcumin
and any
food/vitamin supplyment that might help with inflamation. Try to keep
your
home and items clean/sanitary to avoid further infections, even items
used
for feeding/drinking. Bleach/lysol/ and disinfecting wipe will healp,
and
they don't need the expensive brand either. Also, try to turn on the
shower
head on hot water to creat steam, as this help him open up his nasal
passages. Try also feeding him good fatty acids and oils, like oil
based
gel vitamin suppliments-preferably for kittens, even if the cat is an
adult. Try also feeding him kitten food and milk, since these have
more
calories and nutriens than adult food-this might help him gain
weight.
Also, incorporate more canned food, and water comsumeption. This
increase
feedings. Hopefully, this might help him gain weight and heal
better/sooner. Good luck. And if you have faith, pray, pray for your
little
fighter! Stay strong. Have hope. ?
On Sep 25, 2016 12:06 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL" wrote:
I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy (
Yogi) through.... I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had
something
causing him pain at least 5 of them...... I put him on high doses
of
ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe
Uveitis(
bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would
likely have
to be given chronically....VERY unfortunately he developed a huge
corneal
abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)... Now
I've
got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three times
a day
in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing..... This on top of his
continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and still with
some
blood in the stool..... The BIG problem in the moment is that I
really
can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to do
this to
him..... but.....when I tried to back off them before his Uveitis
returned..... There is a good chance it will return again.....
Has
anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye
inflammation that is not a corticosteroid?? I'll be frank....
this
little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my
retirement "
disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty
soon if
I don't figure something out..... beyond that... it is just too sad
seeing
him constantly suffering with one malady after another....
Winstrol is
not going to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find
one
that will work with me but.... I honestly don't hold out a lot of
hope for
this guy.... He started getting sick very young and it's not gotten
any
better..... My other guy is holding his own and I haven't had him
to the
vet more than once for an upper respiratory infection..... I'm not
just
going to wait for the little guy to pass..... I'm thinking that if
the
Uveitis returns and there is nothing that will control it besides
corticosteroids I'm going to let him go..... He's just always
hurting....
Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few weeks since I
brought
him home .... Add to this that my quality of life is pretty crappy
at this
point as I can take very little time away from home.... I'd spend
thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would
make a
difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades
away while
his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly
blind....
sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who
still
wants to play.... His " better" eye does not appear to be very
functional
which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.....
I
sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it appears
that he
prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the
other
guy.... Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as
long as
it's not too dangerous......
But back to the original question..... any thought or experiences
with
anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not
Corticosteroids.......
thanks for any thoughts..
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1. Re: Hodor Declining (Sandy)
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:39:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: Sandy To: Margo , felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
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listen to Amani!! Sandy W ----- Original Message -----
From: "Margo" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday,
September
25, 2016 6:58:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit
changes. Where can I find information about that?
Thanks,
Margo
-----Original Message----- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Sep 25, 2016
12:25
AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor
Declining
Elizabeth
My experience was that the interferon did absolutely nothing for my
Zander. I checked his blood work weekly to track what was
happening, and
even though I left him on it for several months (with blood
transfusions,
to ensure there was a chance for it to work), there was no effect
at all on
the red blood cells or haematocrit.
Do not wait if you don?t see improvement. My strong suggestion is
to put
him back on the doxycycline and try again for some Winstrol.
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
Behalf
Of Liz McCarty Sent: September-25-16 12:20 AM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
Hey... Hodor was pretty steady and eating well, good energy...
Until
Wednesday. Since then be seems to not have enough energy to move
very far.
Not eating well, or drinking well. One of his eyes started tearing
occasionally. He still gets excited about treats and a water bottle
we
freeze for him that he likes to lick. He has been on interferon for
2
weeks... This past week was his 7 days off. He started back last
night. Has
anyone had interferon experience and seen their cats drop on the
week off?
Any suggestions? I don't want to lose him. We are also giving him
prednisone, Pet Tinic and Dmg.
I don't think the URI cleared before they stopped his
doxycycline...
Even though I expressed concern they said stop for now... I want to
start
him again....any thoughts? I don't think his immune system needs
this extra
stress! He was doing so well when he had the doxycycline.
Thank you.
Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 17:32:57 -0700
From: Maira Favela To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....
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And about essential oils-the purpose of using oils and fats is to give
them
to you cat until they gain weight- they are not ment to be used long
term.
?
On Sep 25, 2016 4:44 PM, "kat" wrote:
Just a caveat on cleaning - do not use lysol or pine-sol - they
contain
phenol which can be toxic to cats & birds.
Also, stay away from essential oils for cat & birds.
Kat (Mew Jersey)
*Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 6:08 PM
*From:* "Maira Favela" *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....
Try researching natural suppliments or remedies on line. Also, have
you
considered seeing a holistic vetnerian? I have not been to one, but i
have
read and heard about them in the internet. Try also using curcumin
and any
food/vitamin supplyment that might help with inflamation. Try to keep
your
home and items clean/sanitary to avoid further infections, even items
used
for feeding/drinking. Bleach/lysol/ and disinfecting wipe will healp,
and
they don't need the expensive brand either. Also, try to turn on the
shower
head on hot water to creat steam, as this help him open up his nasal
passages. Try also feeding him good fatty acids and oils, like oil
based
gel vitamin suppliments-preferably for kittens, even if the cat is an
adult. Try also feeding him kitten food and milk, since these have
more
calories and nutriens than adult food-this might help him gain
weight.
Also, incorporate more canned food, and water comsumeption. This
increase
feedings. Hopefully, this might help him gain weight and heal
better/sooner. Good luck. And if you have faith, pray, pray for your
little
fighter! Stay strong. Have hope. ?
On Sep 25, 2016 12:06 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL" wrote:
I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy (
Yogi) through.... I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had
something
causing him pain at least 5 of them...... I put him on high doses
of
ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe
Uveitis(
bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would
likely have
to be given chronically....VERY unfortunately he developed a huge
corneal
abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)... Now
I've
got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three times
a day
in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing..... This on top of his
continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and still with
some
blood in the stool..... The BIG problem in the moment is that I
really
can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to do
this to
him..... but.....when I tried to back off them before his Uveitis
returned..... There is a good chance it will return again.....
Has
anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye
inflammation that is not a corticosteroid?? I'll be frank....
this
little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my
retirement "
disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty
soon if
I don't figure something out..... beyond that... it is just too sad
seeing
him constantly suffering with one malady after another....
Winstrol is
not going to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find
one
that will work with me but.... I honestly don't hold out a lot of
hope for
this guy.... He started getting sick very young and it's not gotten
any
better..... My other guy is holding his own and I haven't had him
to the
vet more than once for an upper respiratory infection..... I'm not
just
going to wait for the little guy to pass..... I'm thinking that if
the
Uveitis returns and there is nothing that will control it besides
corticosteroids I'm going to let him go..... He's just always
hurting....
Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few weeks since I
brought
him home .... Add to this that my quality of life is pretty crappy
at this
point as I can take very little time away from home.... I'd spend
thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would
make a
difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades
away while
his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly
blind....
sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who
still
wants to play.... His " better" eye does not appear to be very
functional
which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.....
I
sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it appears
that he
prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the
other
guy.... Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as
long as
it's not too dangerous......
But back to the original question..... any thought or experiences
with
anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not
Corticosteroids.......
thanks for any thoughts..
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:39:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: Sandy To: Margo , felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
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listen to Amani!! Sandy W ----- Original Message -----
From: "Margo" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday,
September
25, 2016 6:58:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit
changes. Where can I find information about that?
Thanks,
Margo
-----Original Message----- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Sep 25, 2016
12:25
AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor
Declining
Elizabeth
My experience was that the interferon did absolutely nothing for my
Zander. I checked his blood work weekly to track what was
happening, and
even though I left him on it for several months (with blood
transfusions,
to ensure there was a chance for it to work), there was no effect
at all on
the red blood cells or haematocrit.
Do not wait if you don?t see improvement. My strong suggestion is
to put
him back on the doxycycline and try again for some Winstrol.
Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On
Behalf
Of Liz McCarty Sent: September-25-16 12:20 AM To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
Hey... Hodor was pretty steady and eating well, good energy...
Until
Wednesday. Since then be seems to not have enough energy to move
very far.
Not eating well, or drinking well. One of his eyes started tearing
occasionally. He still gets excited about treats and a water bottle
we
freeze for him that he likes to lick. He has been on interferon for
2
weeks... This past week was his 7 days off. He started back last
night. Has
anyone had interferon experience and seen their cats drop on the
week off?
Any suggestions? I don't want to lose him. We are also giving him
prednisone, Pet Tinic and Dmg.
I don't think the URI cleared before they stopped his
doxycycline...
Even though I expressed concern they said stop for now... I want to
start
him again....any thoughts? I don't think his immune system needs
this extra
stress! He was doing so well when he had the doxycycline.
Thank you.
Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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