My 2nd job at the vet gives me a break on all the medicines and neutered and if 
we find kittens, he will take them and we adopt them out.  it's a full time job 
with all these animals.  My husband takes care of them when I work my long days 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 1:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

I am lucky, found a vet who goes along with me especially re:  felv treatment.
---- Sandy <swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote: 
> 
> It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet 
> seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school 
> and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the 
> same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I 
> guess it's like each one has to do for our own health care - be 
> informed and take charge. And, it's not easy
> 
> Sandy
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Marlene Snowman" <tessie1...@icloud.com>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> 
> My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent 
> effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more 
> chances. Who really knows.... 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> > <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
> > 
> > So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting 
> > it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV 
> > separated. Thanks for the info
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Marlene Snowman
> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> > 
> > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 
> > year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains 
> > negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate 
> > litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also 
> > cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each 
> > other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 
> > 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, 
> > you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far 
> > I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing 
> > what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would 
> > have been sicker at the onset. 
> > 
> > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the 
> > decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 
> > 
> > M
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> >> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does 
> >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about 
> >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with 
> >> the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats 
> >> and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv 
> >> has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't 
> >> think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> >> 
> >> Hi Sheila... 
> >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... 
> >> that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense could get 
> >> rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters???
> >> 
> >> Bob
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, 
> >> felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
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> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) 2. Re: Checking in..... 
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> >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400
> >>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
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> >>> 
> >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
> >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. 
> >>> Plus I took another
> >>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her 
> >>> FeLv+ too
> >>> :). 
> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
> >>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my 
> >>>> first FELV cat.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On 
> >>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore
> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
> >>>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
> >>>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork 
> >>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too.
> >>>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
> >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. 
> >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not 
> >>>> heard anything.
> >>>> 
> >>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: 
> >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical 
> >>>>> in cats
> >>>> (and being called into question in humans too). 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Amani
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
> >>>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
> >>>>> To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back 
> >>>>> great.
> >>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 
> >>>> 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
> >>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am 
> >>>>> once again
> >>>> not getting group mail.... 
> >>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? 
> >>>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but 
> >>>>> ( as we
> >>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll 
> >>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you 
> >>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered 
> >>>> chronically ( say above
> >>>> 7.5 mg
> >>>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso 
> >>>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to 
> >>>> unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His 
> >>>> Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain 
> >>>> appears to be pretty well controlled....
> >>>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could 
> >>>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 
> >>>> cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 
> >>>> 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly 
> >>>> Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... 
> >>>> supposed to have anti tumor
> >>>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! 
> >>>> which I h
> >>>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder 
> >>>> every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor 
> >>>> invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum....
> >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( 
> >>>>> clincally) die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope 
> >>>>> everyones buddies are
> >>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... 
> >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has 
> >>>> left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on 
> >>>> expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in 
> >>>> anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is 
> >>>> enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a 
> >>>> fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it 
> >>>> without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like 
> >>>> them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a 
> >>>> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ 
> >>>> have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's 
> >>>> that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's 
> >>>> the Justice I ask you!!!!)...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Bob
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Bob
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
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> >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000
> >>> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" 
> >>> 
> >>> To: "'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 
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> >>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the 
> >>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure 
> >>> if him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat 
> >>> clan is up to 28 cats. Insane.
> >>> 
> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Pam Doore
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM
> >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
> >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. 
> >>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably 
> >>> end up adopting her too :).
> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >
> >>> wrote: 
> >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my 
> >>> first FELV cat.
> >>> 
> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Pam Doore
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
> >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? 
> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >
> >>> wrote: 
> >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork 
> >>> every
> >>> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. 
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >>> Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
> >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
> >>> 
> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. 
> >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not 
> >>> heard anything.
> >>> 
> >>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: 
> >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical 
> >>>> in cats (and being called into question in humans too).
> >>>> 
> >>>> Amani
> >>>> 
> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
> >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
> >>>> To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
> >>>> 
> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back 
> >>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is 
> >>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time.
> >>>> 
> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
> >>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once 
> >>>> again not getting group mail....
> >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? 
> >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but 
> >>>> ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so 
> >>>> I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of 
> >>>> you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered 
> >>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster 
> >>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their 
> >>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing 
> >>>> him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have 
> >>>> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well 
> >>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the 
> >>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's 
> >>>> on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for 
> >>>> pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved 
> >>>> in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears 
> >>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " 
> >>>> alternative " medications !
> >>> which I h
> >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder 
> >>> every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading 
> >>> his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum....
> >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) 
> >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones 
> >>>> buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties 
> >>>> can do)...
> >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has 
> >>>> left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on 
> >>>> expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in 
> >>>> anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is 
> >>>> enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a 
> >>>> fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it 
> >>>> without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like 
> >>>> them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a 
> >>>> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ 
> >>>> have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's 
> >>>> that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's 
> >>>> the Justice I ask you!!!!)...
> >>>> 
> >>>> Bob
> >>>> 
> >>>> Bob
> >>>> 
> >>> 
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