*What you describe is NOT a "strawman" purchase at all as top anyone.*
The strawman refers to using another person to *deceive* the dealer and THE GOVERNMENT by making the fake appear as the transferee to the dealer and to the government so that the NICS check is run on the fakeer and the paperwork shows a transfer to the faker. The government is concerned that the person who fills out the ATF Form 4473 and undergoes the NICS check is the "actual buyer/transferee" of the firearm. That is, the person takes and holds possession if the gun. The government is *not* concerned with the financing, absent fraud, of the transaction. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Greg Jacobs <grjtw...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > >Since Tom is a legal purchaser in his state, this is an example of a > >perfectly legal "straw man" purchase. So there is anti-gun Big Lie > >number #3, that all straw man purchases are illegal. > > > >Methinks there is an opportunity here for an OAQ ("occasionally asked > >questions", or "oak"): anti-gun Big Lies and the truth. > > The key to that is the definition of "purchase" versus "taking delivery". > If you walk into a gun shop with your spouse, parent, sibling, friend, or > child (of legal age, of course) and give the shop money for the "purchase" > of a firearm but the other person with you "takes delivery" and fills out > the Form 4473, and is the subject of the NICS check, nothing illegal > happened. It's a straw purchase only with respect to the person who > delivered the cash. That's a far cry from you delivering the cash AND > completing the forms (upon which you would have to lie in this instance), > getting the NICS check, and then handing the weapon over to someone else in > violation of the law and the Form 4473. BIG difference. > > ***GRJ*** > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Firearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are > posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or > wrongly) forward the messages to others. > -- ************************************************************************************************************** Professor Joseph Olson, J.D.(*Hon*. Duke), LL.M.(*Tax*. Florida) o 651-523-2142 Hamline University School of Law (MS-D2037) f 651-523-2236 St. Paul, MN 55113-1235 c 612-865-7956 jol...@hamliine.edu http://law.hamline.edu/constitutional_law/joseph_olson.html
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