On 10/14/2010 07:34 PM, paim wrote: > http://www.adat.ch/p2e_adat.html > and R&S Germany have as well sdr radio > > E.P > > > > > > --- On Thu, 14/10/10, ka5...@tx.rr.com <ka5...@tx.rr.com> wrote: > > > From: ka5...@tx.rr.com <ka5...@tx.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Competitor > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Date: Thursday, 14 October, 2010, 20:24 > > > The real question is where will Flexradio's SDR competitor come from? My > suspicion is that it will be a home grown, garage based, start-up here in the > US; but will use overseas manufacturing to be cost competitive. The software > angle I am not not sure about. > > I think interesting times are ahead! > > Paul Cecil > KA5FPT > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:33:17 -0700 > From: Jack Haverty <j...@3kitty.org> > To: Neal Campbell <nealk...@gmail.com> > Cc: "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" <flexradio@flex-radio.biz> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Competitor > Message-ID: <1287023597.2495.54.ca...@localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I think it depends on what you mean by SDR. Is a K2 with a Panadapter > an SDR? I suspect that the processing to do the FFTs, create the > spectrum display, apply the filters, etc., is implemented in software. > It's probably in an embedded processor, rather than in a Windows PC, but > it's still software. > > It comes down to engineering. When the engineers discover that they can > implement better specs with less money using software/firmware than > discrete components, it will happen - probably has to some extent > already with "DSP". If you look at IcoKenYae VHF gear and things like > D-Star, it's pretty obvious there's already some software in there > somewhere. > > I think we'll see something like what has happened in telephones. The > new phones are certainly software-defined-telephones, with an embedded > computer. > > Perhaps we'll see a ham xcvr with an embedded SBC or Linux processor (or > several). But you may not be able to tell at first since it will still > have knobs and switches, and will evolve incrementally like the > panadapter add-on. There are even some traditional radios know that > know how to decode/encode CW and RTTY, which is surely done in software. > Maybe we'll see something like the mobile radios with remotable front > panels - you could plug in one with knobs and switches, or a different > one with a touchscreen. > > So they probably already are investing, it's just not as obvious from > the outside. > > /Jack > de K3FIV > > On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 21:38 -0400, Neal Campbell wrote: > >> I don't think they will invest in SDRs until their commercial business >> requires it. I truly think that with all but Elecraft and Tentec, the >> amateur radio business is almost an afterthought. Their profits come from >> the commercial radios they sell and I think they just borrow that technology >> (or, vice versa they experiment with a new commercial business idea in the >> ham space). When they can sell it commercially, they will come. >> >> The customer intimacy and service that Flex has combined with their great >> technology will make it a pretty tough market to enter. >> 73 >> Neal Campbell >> Abroham Neal Software >> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com >> (540) 645 5394 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting (540) 645 5394 >> end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting >> (540) 645 5394 end_of_the_skype_highlighting >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Tim Ellison <telli...@itsco.com> wrote: >> >> >>> For a true SDR, I think it will be a while. Those companies are not >>> "built" to be software shops. It also does not fit well with their >>> "planned >>> obsolescence" amateur radio business model when they sell new radio >>> hardware every few years which are really nothing more than minor hardware >>> uplifts (e.g the Pro II to Pro III). I seriously doubt that they could get >>> many folks to fork out money in the neighborhood of several thousand >>> dollars >>> for a software upgrade in order for users to get the next radio model. I >>> also do not see them using open source software either since they like to >>> protect all their intellectual property, so they would have to write or buy >>> their own DSP, audio routing and FTT code. >>> >>> I do not see them making the heavy investment to bring to market a "real >>> SDR until they start really losing market share to SDR radios, and even >>> then >>> they still may not do it. >>> >>> -Tim >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto: >>> flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Drax Felton >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:10 PM >>> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz >>> Subject: [Flexradio] Competitor >>> >>> >>> >>> So when do you think the Yaesu's, Icom's, and Kenwood's will come out with >>> a Flex competitor? >>> >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ > > Ah, yes, the ADAT. Quite a discussion over on eHam about it. Appears to be a low-production item, with very few in the US. Jim
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