On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:08:23 +0100
Georg Vollnhals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Betreff:      Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/R22/Models
> R22.xml, 1.3, 1.4 paint1.rgb, 1.1, 1.2 r22.ac, 1.3, 1.4
> Datum:        Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:18:06 +0100
> Von:  Georg Vollnhals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An:   Syd Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Referenzen:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
> Syd Adams schrieb:
> > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/R22/Models
> > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13652/Aircraft/R22/Models
> >
> > Modified Files:
> >     R22.xml paint1.rgb r22.ac 
> > Log Message:
> > 3d model updates...
> > FDM updates...
> >
> >   
> Hi Syd,
> 
> first just to mention, all what I report is only meant as positive
> feedback  - if not wished, just tell me :-)
> 
> a) Nice we have got another update. As for the Robinson stick, it moves
> "normal" like all other helo-sticks.
> The crossbar is just for changing pilot control right <-> left and can
> be moved up down for optimal handgrip position.
> In "our" R22 you coupled the crossbar movement with the left/right stick
> movement, that is wrong. The basic stick should move into all 4
> directions (together with the crossbar and grips, of course)
> 
> See nice video samples:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MITIEVTF1Yg
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=308DzvmYNiA
> 
> b) to add to my review:
> Autorotation is impossible and ground-forces move the helo. I think this
> is due to (wrong) counter-acting forces on the helo/cabin although the
> collectiv is fully down. (Maik, please, your task???)
> 
> Regards
> Georg

Hi Georg , no problem .
I see what you you mean about the stick , I saw a still photo of one turned all 
the way to one side , didn't realise it was an adjustment , but now it makes 
sense ...
Some other interesting things I noticed from the videos  was more vibration 
than I expected ....
...a sideways rocking motion , same as the FG model but not as strong (because 
its so bottom heavy , I'm guessing ) .... and the pilot seemed to be using a 
lot of left pedal during slow flight .... so maybe the FDM is not too far off 
...
Im still looking for airfoil parameters , and eventually should be able to get 
this more accurate   
Another thing to mention is that it defaults to 2 180 lb people at startup , 
and I've run across several documents that say the 2 person weight limit is 140 
lbs per seat ....   
But thanks for the input .... its easy to overlook details with things like 
this :) 

Oh yes , the ground movement is a Yasim gear issue that I dont quite understand 
too well but I'll work on that ... 

Syd&Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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