Hi, Thank you for your reply.
Yeah, sorry for the noise... I had eventually found the 'L Beam Box' fuel in /consumables/fuel/tank[2]... I _WAS_ being confused by the 'empty' indication, and the fact that some values are not filled in... like as shown, via the httpd server - Contents of "/consumables/fuel/tank[2]" capacity-gal_imp (154.8873218) capacity-gal_us (186.0119176) capacity-m3 (0.7041317048) density-kgpm3 (754.9064927) density-ppg (6.3) empty (true) kill-when-empty (false) level-gal_imp (0) level-gal_us (175.1549882) level-kg (0) level-lbs (1103.476425) level-m3 (0) level-norm (0) name (L beam box) selected (true) transfering (false) unusable-gal_imp (0) unusable-gal_us (0) unusable-m3 (0) Similarly for the 'R Beam Box' in tank[4], etc, but now have the information desired... no problem... And do my own 'conversions', and just ignore the 'empty' indication, but (perhaps) not the 'selected'... And similarly, eventually began to understand that the left and right 'Sumps' ARE additional (small) tanks... tank[3], tank[5]... So now I have the same value as the onboard display, through telnet ;=)) As usual should look HARDER before blabbing... sorry... Onwards, to happy FAST FLYING ;=)) Regards, Geoff. On Sun, 2011-09-25 at 23:46 +0200, Citronnier - Alexis Bory wrote: > Le 25/09/2011 01:07, Geoff McLane a écrit : > > Evolved from [Any alpha testers with a bit of extra time on their > > hands?] > > > > Re: Start up > > > > When I first loaded the f-14b the engines were NOT > > running, so I searched for a 'Start-up procedure', but > > mostly in vane... it turned out all I needed to do was ADD > > FUEL to the beast ;=)) > > > > So I would suggest a line or 2 be added to the f-14b > > wiki - > > http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Grumman_F-14_Tomcat > > > > Something like - > > > > Start up: > > > > If the engines are OFF (silent) when you load the f-14b, all you > > maybe need to do is enter MENU tomcat controls -> Fuel and stores, > > and increase the 'L Beam Box', (and 'R Beam Box') sliders > > to give the beast some fuel ;=)) > > > > And the engines should IGNITE ;=)) > > > > Then you have an 'active', very fast aircraft at your > > disposal ;=)) > > > > And this fuel added will be 'saved' so on the next run > > the f-14b - it will have the fuel you exited with... > > > > Maybe there are other ways, but did not explore > > them... > > > > Of course I would further recommend an 'f', to set full > > flaps, before you bump the throttle... and you will be > > airborne quite quickly... very BIG POWERFUL engines... > > > > If like me you started on KSFO 10L, quickly throttle back > > to about 50%, or less, and commence a left turn, and head > > back to the San Mateo bridge... another left, and line up > > for a landing... to complete your first 'manual' circuit... > > > > Re: FUEL > > > > Am a bit confused by the MENU -> Tomcat controls -> > > Fuel& stores - > > http://geoffair.org/tmp/f-14b-fuelset.png > > and the onboard fuel display - > > http://geoffair.org/tmp/f-14b-fuel.png > > > > It _SEEMS_, in the Nasal code, the 'Sump' is ADDED to > > the fuel displayed... This does not seem right!?!? > > > > I added 2x225 (450) pounds of fuel, but end up seeing > > 1010 pounds of fuel on my panel display... > > > > Now maybe I do NOT understand the 'sump' (2x281), but > > it seems the nasal code ADDED this as well... > Yes, I asked the nasal code do that. Each sump is a tiny little tank > that contains only 281 lbs of pure JP-5 (44 US gal)... ask Grumman :-) > > As indicated. maybe _NOT_ a problem, but QUITE confusing > > none the less... and needs explanation... > > The two lateral digital fuel quantity indicators can represent three > different quantities depending on the respective switch setting (fuel > control panel on the left console, outer left switch, WING, FEED, EXT) > When on the middle position it sums the tanks for each feed group: left > wing, aft, left beam box, left sump, or right wing, forward tank, right > beam box and right sump. In the manual, the feed group may or may not > include the wing tank... Other positions show only wing tanks or > external tanks. The tapes show only internal, that is each feed group > without wing. Total shows total fuel as expected. > > What's funny is to look at how the fuel flows from one tank to another > depending on the fuel flow at the engine pumps. After a while the system > can stand afterburners needs but not more. > > Unfortunately I didn't took the time to model the engine system yet, I > did a guided missile instead (me bad boy !) > > > Re: autopilot (F11 and keyboard) > > > > Have not yet explored all of this, but the first few > > tries seemed quite successful... > > > > Need more time to make sure the generic 'autopilot' (F11 > > or through keyboard commands) of the f-14b is working > > as it should... but at this time have found no > > particular problems... no adverse behavior... no > > 'error' outputs... > > > > That is at least in the low altitude, low speed, full > > flaps mode, low throttle, mode I have been using... > The altitude mode has a lot of trouble with the automatic unlock system > which is way too sensible, and the attitude mode is not friend with the > flaps compensation system. For the rest you better disable the attitude > mode before doing aerobatics. > But well, it works as long as you have fps > 20. Note that I didn't made > any effort to keep FG standard AP in line with the F-14 system. > > Re: A Question > > > > Through a telnet connection, I have been trying to > > determine the fuel available for the f-14b... > > > > But when I query say - > > /consumables/fuel/tank/level-gal_us > > and/or > > /consumables/fuel/tank[1]-[11]/level-gal_us > > I find these are mostly EMPTY!!!???... > Mostly half empty or mostly half full ? > > So the question is - where, in what property, are > > the above mentioned left/right 225 pounds stored? > > > > Yes, I have found the property - > > /sim/model/f-14b/instrumentation/fuel-gauges/ > > [left|right]-wing-display > > contains the (inflated by sump) value... > > > > But where can I find the 'L Beam Box', and > > 'R Beam Box' slider results in the properties? > FWD_Fuselage consumables/fuel/tank[0] > AFT_Fuselage consumables/fuel/tank[1] > Left_Beam_Box consumables/fuel/tank[2] > Left_Sump consumables/fuel/tank[3] > Right_Beam_Box consumables/fuel/tank[4] > Right_Sump consumables/fuel/tank[5] > Left_Wing consumables/fuel/tank[6] > Right_Wing consumables/fuel/tank[7] > Left_External consumables/fuel/tank[8] > Right_External consumables/fuel/tank[9] > 10 and 11 are proportionners and contain only 10 lbs each, they > don't appear in the fuel and stores dialog. > > > As always, thank you for a GREAT aircraft ;=)) > Thanks Geoff :-) > > > For a 'powerful' thrill, certainly recommend > > it... be very 'calm' on your joystick control... > > > > Regards, > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > > Why? 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