Hi Clement
Yes it is really sad to see such commit messages.
But maybe the PAF team also thinks too concurrently in headers, gpl and
copyright notice and file descriptions here. Maybe the PAF team has to take
into account that Helijah spent half of his life contributing to flightgear
models and this needs some personal respect and not only respecting gpl terms.
For me personally the contribution of the PAF is very welcome, but to be
honest, it has not the same history like the contribution of Emanuel. Even when
it sounds strange to you, try to talk to him directly.
I guess no one here wants to judge about small coyright thinking and "who was
first", "who violates gpl by gpl" and other childish games (which points mainly
to Emanuel, who is responsible for many reallly bad commit messages, forum
messages, in a really bad manner).
But at the end here we are all volunteers, and the best you can do, the best
the PAF team can do for the project is ... keep your work up, get commit rights
and commit and try to communicate in a good way, a long time.
Never blame others for doing this or that to make us judge about "who is
right". Helijah does it the "hidden" way in his commit messages, everyone knows
and ignores, but you do it here officially in the list. Don't think people
here are so stupid that they do not realise what's going on.
The Flightgear Project made the bad mistake to miss to split the code into
"core" and "plug-ins" with fg/sg vs. parts of fgdata, making it possible to
have "hangers" for example. Maybe the core devs will make a better decision
about this once, or when the current core team realise what fgdata has become
actually, or another core team.
Lets say thanks to all fgdata contributors who makes not that much noise and
are patient all the days, really.
-Yves
Am 20.12.2012 um 23:44 schrieb Clement de l'Hamaide <clem...@hotmail.fr>:
> <<[..] Not only do they believe to be the authors of this aircraft but they
> also break existing things for the pleasure of breaking. >>
>
> It's sad to see this kind of commit description in a public place of the
> FlightGear project.
>
> For information, the commit is about the improvement made by PAF team on the
> DR400. (Of course nobody from PAF team asked him to push their work in the
> repo. It's his own choice to download the work done by PAF team and use it
> for it's own DR400)
> As the GNU GPL licence says : it's highly recommended to add a copyright
> header for each file created/modified. It's exactly what PAF team done adding
> "Modified by PAF team" (in case of file modification) or "Created by PAF
> team" (in case of file creation) as copyright header. Unfortunately helijah
> has removed all these copyright header before pushing the work made by PAF
> team on the repo.
>
> I can't imagine what would be the reaction of Curt if a commiter remove the
> header copyright of the file flightgear/src/Main/main.cxx . The fault made by
> helijah is the same here : he removed the copyright header (recommended by
> GNU GPL licence) of files for the second time (the first one was :
> https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/commit/7bc193ad0af206f166f2ab768880cec07891faa6
> )
>
> I will skip all the insults publicly written by helijah for just focusing
> your attention about the past and current licence / copyright violation
> brought by this contributor (red bull livery (z-lin50), sound file(reported
> by Pierre), texture file (JAS39-gripen). I think that a real solution has to
> be discussed here in order to avoid any new problem with this contributor.
>
> Cheers,
> Clément
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