But, that's exactly the cause for concern! Aside from the fact of Smalltalk's obsolescence (which isn't really the point), the Squeak plugin could never be approved by a 'responsible' sysadmin, *because it can run arbitrary user code*! Squeak's not in the app store for exactly that reason. You'll notice how crippled the allowed 'programming apps' are. This is simple strong-arm bully tactics on the part of Apple; technical problems "solved" by heavy-handed legal means. Make no mistake, the iPad is the anti-Dynabook.
-- Max On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Mack <m...@mackenzieresearch.com> wrote: > For better or worse, both Apple and Microsoft (via Windows 8) are > attempting to rectify this via the "Terms and Conditions" route. > > It's been announced that both Windows 8 and OSX Mountain Lion will require > applications to be installed via download thru their respective "App > Stores" in order to obtain certification required for the OS to allow them > access to features (like an installed camera, or the network) that are > outside the default application sandbox. > > The acceptance of the App Store model for the iPhone/iPad has persuaded > them that this will be (commercially) viable as a model for general public > distribution of trustable software. > > In that world, the Squeak plugin could be certified as safe to download in > a way that System Admins might believe. > > > On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Alan Kay wrote: > > Windows (especially) is so porous that SysAdmins (especially in school > districts) will not allow teachers to download .exe files. This wipes out > the Squeak plugin that provides all the functionality. > > But there is still the browser and Javascript. But Javascript isn't fast > enough to do the particle system. But why can't we just download the > particle system and run it in a safe address space? The browser people > don't yet understand that this is what they should have allowed in the > first place. So right now there is only one route for this (and a few years > ago there were none) -- and that is Native Client on Google Chrome. > > But Google Chrome is only 13% penetrated, and the other browser fiefdoms > don't like NaCl..... Google Chrome is an .exe file so teachers can't > download it (and if they could, they could download the Etoys plugin). > > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > fonc@vpri.org > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > >
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