The Lord will return like a thief in the night: http://bible.cc/1_thessalonians/5-2.htm Is this predictable? Is there more than one return? Jews believe in one Messiah. Christians believe in 2 Messiahs (Jesus and his return). Anyone for 3 or 4 or more?
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:12 AM, BGB <cr88...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 4/6/2013 10:59 AM, John Carlson wrote: > > When I was studying Revelation in the 1980s. We thought this same > scripture referred to the European Union. We also thought that Jesus had > to return by 1988, because that was one generation past when the Jews > returned to Israel in 1948. It seems that god has a way of overturning > predictions. > > > read something recently that asserted that the prediction still held, only > that the generation was 80 years rather than 40, thus putting the end-event > somewhere around 2028 (with the rebuilding of the temple and tribulation > and so on happening before this). > > it still remains to be seen how things will turn out. > > > > Some answered questions: http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/ab/SAQ/ > > On Apr 6, 2013 5:32 AM, "Kirk Fraser" <overcomer....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Most likely your personal skills at natural language are insufficient to > understand Revelation in the Bible, like mine were until I spent lots of > time learning. Now I can predict the current Pope Francis will eventually > help create the 7 nation Islamic Caliphate with 3 extra-national military > powers like Hamas in Rev. 13, 17:3. You must understand natural language > well if you want to program it well. Many grad students hack out an NLP > project that works at an uninspiring level. To go beyond the state of the > art, you must learn to understand beyond state of the art. > > > > Claims that the world has progressed beyond some past century are true > for technology but not in human behavior. People still have wars large and > small. Some of the worst human behavior can be seen in courts during wars > between family members, and some of that behavior comes from lawyers. > Human behavior can only be improved by everyone pursuing the absolute > perfection of God and his human form Jesus Christ, the Creator. We must go > beyond the state of the art churches, to learn from the true church which > Jesus practiced with His students, before He left and they quit doing much > of what He did and taught. > > > > Because his first graduates ignored His teaching of equal status under > Him instead pursuing positions over others and their money, today we have > inherited that culture instead of Jesus' life where it is possible to be > fed directly by God's miracles without need of money. So I propose a > return from today's "advanced culture" to Jesus' absolute perfection. > www.freetom.info.truechurch > > > > In view of the human spiritual awakening possible that way, computers > are only a temporary support until we get there. Watch videos archived at > www.sidroth.org some of which are lame but others are impressive showing > what is happening now giving the idea the perfect culture of Jesus' church > is possible. > > > > Love Absolute Truth, > > Kirk W. Fraser > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Steve Taylor <s...@ozemail.com.au> > wrote: > >> > >> Charlie Derr wrote: > >> > >>> Nevertheless I'm finding some of this conversation truly fascinating > (though I'm having a little trouble figuring out > >>> what is "truth" and what isn't). > >> > >> > >> I'm just waiting for Kirk to mention Atlantis or the Rosicrucians. It > feels like it could be any moment... > >> > >> > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fonc mailing list > >> fonc@vpri.org > >> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kirk W. Fraser > > http://freetom.info/TrueChurch - Replace the fraud churches with the > true church. > > http://congressionalbiblestudy.org - Fix America by first fixing its > Christian foundation. > > http://freetom.info - Example of False Justice common in America > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fonc mailing list > > fonc@vpri.org > > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing listfonc@vpri.orghttp://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > > > > _______________________________________________ > fonc mailing list > fonc@vpri.org > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc > >
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