You know, for someone using a tool that hasn't paid for it, you have a real
tone of overweening entitlement.  Perhaps you need to look up the
definitions involved in "free software" and "open source software".  You
may wish, in particular, to pay attention to the portions of it that
involve how to get people to work for you (*for free*, I remind you).

You should perhaps be thankful that Richard Hipp doesn't share my
temperament.  Had this been my project you would have been silently removed
from a real mailing list to a black hole one where every email you sent
never made it to another person, even though you could still read each and
every message.

As for your later offer of a bounty?  Forget it.  Your attitude clearly
marks you as the kind of person who'd be a "client from Hell".  I suspect
that, given your performance on the list so far, you'll find it difficult
to hire anybody.  You probably now rely on the good, kind, professional
graces of Richard.  May God have mercy on your code.


On 18 December 2012 04:58, K <k...@lightpowered.org> wrote:

> I don't need to make assumptions, and therefore am not. I'm going off of
> the facts, which I can observe, and which I can present to others.
>
> The file was not deleted. It was moved using Fossil's own "fossil mv"
> command. It's irrational to treat this as a deletion.
>
> If you cannot provide justification for this behavior, we should move to
> discussing the behavior Fossil should exhibit.
>
> ^K
>
>
> on Dec 17, 2012, Richard Hipp <d...@sqlite.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:49 PM, K <k...@lightpowered.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >As I said, I did not DELETE any files, but rather moved them. fossil
> changes reported
> >them as RENAMED. And in the check in, they are being reported as DELETED.
> >
> >
> >
> >I'm just asking how in the design of Fossil you justified this decision.
> Please directly
> >address this vs skirting it.
> >
> >I would guess that when generating the "DELETED" text the code merely
> notes that a
> >file with that name is no longer part of the check-in and that the code
> does not
> >go to the extra trouble to figure out if the filename changed.
> >
> >
> >
> >You seem to be making the assumption that whoever wrote that bit of code
> made a deliberate
> >decision to obscure the fact that the filename changed.  Why would you
> assume that?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >^K
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >on Dec 17, 2012, Richard Hipp <d...@sqlite.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:55 PM, K <k...@lightpowered.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>I'm looking at the page for my file and its history ends as deleted when
> I did not
> >
> >>delete it. I moved it, which fossil changes reported as a RENAMED. I
> commited and
> >
> >>now have the surprise dumped on me that my file was deleted and whatever
> else, when
> >
> >>it was not. This is not acceptable to lose the history of a file just
> because I
> >MOVE
> >
> >>it. I cannot believe this is how Fossil is operating and apparently is
> expected
> >to
> >
> >>operate. PLEASE JUSTIFY THIS.
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>I've very sorry that the file history report does not structure the
> information
> >as
> >
> >>you would prefer.
> >
> >>
> >
> >>All of the information needed to track file changes across renames is
> contained
> >in
> >
> >>the repository.  And, in fact, the "annotate" screens do trace changes
> across renames.
> >
> >>But nobody has yet taken the time to write a report screen that displays
> a file
> >history
> >
> >>graph across renames.  Perhaps because nobody cares as passionately
> about this as
> >
> >>you seem to.  The Fossil source code is open-source; you could
> contribute a solution
> >
> >>if you wanted to.
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>--
> >
> >>D. Richard Hipp
> >
> >>d...@sqlite.org
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >D. Richard Hipp
> >d...@sqlite.org
> >
> >
> >
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