It may be that you need to replace the "one giant file" in the below
scenario with "a great many files that as a whole take up a lot of bytes".
I don't remember.  Sorry. :-/


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Eric Rubin-Smith <eas....@gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe I have seen this issue.  It's been a while, but here is the
> scenario as far as I can recollect:
>
>    1. Assume there are three repo copies in a "master/client" topology:
>    M, C1, and C2.  M is the master, and C1/C2 are clones of the master
>    (meaning that C1 and C2 don't know about each other; they always push to
>    and pull from M).  No proxies anywhere.
>    2. M, C1, and C2 are all separated by low-bandwidth, high-latency
>    links, which causes syncs to take a long time.
>    3. C1 creates a giant file, checks it in, and pushes it to M.  The
>    push completes.
>    4. C2 begins a pull.
>    5. During C2's pull, C1 creates a small file, checks it in, and pushes
>    it to M.
>    6. A long time later, C2's pull completes.
>    7. C2 initiates another pull.  But M does not report the new small
>    file, so C2 does not see the new file.
>
> In my case, I worked around the issue by creating yet another artifact
> from C1.  This seems to have caused M and/or C2 to sort themselves out.
>
> I have no idea how the sync code works, but at the time I suspected that
> there is some sort of optimization involving timestamps, and a slow sync
> can cause that code to get confused and miss some artifacts.  May or may
> not have an interaction with sqlite's WAL setting (which allows reads
> concurrent with one write, if memory serves).
>
> Anyway, hopefully that won't send you on too big of a goose chase.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stephan Beal <sgb...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Andy Bradford <amb-fos...@bradfords.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This has been mentioned before a few  times, but so far, nobody has been
>>> able to  provide enough details to  reproduce it and none  of the Fossil
>>> devs have seen it.
>>>
>>
>> It's come up 3 or 4 times the past year, IIRC. i _might_ have seen it
>> once, but i might have just forgotten to pull in that case. Nobody's been
>> able to consistently reproduce it, nor come up with a hint about where it
>> may lie. i _think_ (but my memory's far from perfect) we ruled out a
>> caching proxy server in the middle in at least one case.
>>
>>
>>> If it happens again will you provide  the output of both the commit from
>>> one machine  and the update  from the second? At  least that would  be a
>>> start.
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
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