Hi all:

In message <787dd2f8-edf8-4caf-5d8c-b63cac39a...@marples.name>,
Roy Marples writes:
>On 26/03/2017 22:19, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 07:49:30PM +0200, Tomasz Konojacki wrote:
>>> For someone with a different background, there is *nothing* nice about
>>> fossil dumping thousands of lines to the terminal. In fact, I think it
>>> scares off newbies who only used git before.
>>
>> I quite disagree. Terminal output is C&P friendly. Pager output tends to
>> disappear with the pager. That's a real world UX issue I have with the
>> git default settings.
>
>Pager output disappearing with the pager (I assume when asking the pager 
>to exit) is an issue with the pager.
>
>As Fossil is a single binary to do everything approach, I'm sure that a 
>Fossil pager would not suffer this defect.

IIRC the patch is using an external pager right? There is not a pager
being build into fossil.

>Yes, terminals have scroll bars and can page up, but that's the wrong 
>approach as well.
>
>When viewing a diff I want to start at the top and scroll down, not 
>start at the bottom and scroll up, hence a pager makes perfect sense.

As long as it can be turned off so wrappers around fossil (fsl, emacs
vc mode, other programs using the cli as a fossil interface) are not
broken if terminal detection fails, I'm meh about it.

--
                                -- rouilj
John Rouillard
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On 26/03/2017 22:19, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 07:49:30PM +0200, Tomasz Konojacki wrote:
>> For someone with a different background, there is *nothing* nice about
>> fossil dumping thousands of lines to the terminal. In fact, I think it
>> scares off newbies who only used git before.
>
> I quite disagree. Terminal output is C&P friendly. Pager output tends to
> disappear with the pager. That's a real world UX issue I have with the
> git default settings.

Pager output disappearing with the pager (I assume when asking the pager 
to exit) is an issue with the pager.

As Fossil is a single binary to do everything approach, I'm sure that a 
Fossil pager would not suffer this defect.

Yes, terminals have scroll bars and can page up, but that's the wrong 
approach as well.

When viewing a diff I want to start at the top and scroll down, not 
start at the bottom and scroll up, hence a pager makes perfect sense.

Roy
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