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2009/6/15 Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com>: > Sysops on Commons arent just handed the tools they first must seek a level > of trust from the community that trust is because there are times when a > person must act in the interest of Commons. As a long term sysop on Commons > and one the higher end contributors sysops do have a level of authority and > need to exercise their judgement more frequently without discussion then > other larger projects (like de,en) one the problems is that at times there > arent the experienced people around to enable a thorough discussion before > acting. > This is a particluar problem with local copyright issues as an Australian I > got a good understand of OZ law and know where to get more info, I also > gained a fair understanding of US over time and out of necessity but I have > a very limited smattering of it for elsewhere when there is the necessity to > make a move if I cant get independent opinions/help then I would defer to > safest solution for Commons Yeah. The problem is that to be an admin on Commons requires you to be a copyright law edge-cases nerd way beyond the point where any reasonable person would just say "bugger it, just sue me." And the persistence to deal with, what is it, 10%? of uploads being unacceptable for one reason or another. So you'll get people - and it's fewer and fewer - who tend to be interested in Commons as a standalone project and are indifferent-to-hostile to the service project angle. The bureaucratic obstructionism - not active hindering (well, maybe just a bit), just passive not-caring - accorded the recent Pikiwiki problems is a perfect recent example. Possible solution: active recruitment drive on client wikis of underrepresented languages. Get interested sysops on those wikis to go through suitable training to become Commons. This requires setting out precisely what a Commons admin needs to know. Establish clear and somewhat objective criteria for Commons admins. - d. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l