In my testing (Reader DC) I found the Previous and Next View to only toggle between page-view settings (e.g., page width, full page, continuous). I was about to suggest using them but thought, "Hmmm, better verify" and--for me at least--it was a big nope. Alt+Left was the only way to go back to the source PDF when it opened the target, attached PDF into the same tab.
(I recall a similar usability problem with mobile PDF readers: When we wanted one document--a checklist--to open to the more-detailed steps, the opened document had to have an explicit link back in its text to return to the checklist.) I'm still hoping that the hotspot creation will work for the OP! David -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Framers] Embedding attachments in FM that remain attachments when PDF'd From: "Reng, Dr. Winfried" <[1]wr...@tycoint.com> Date: Fri, August 04, 2017 2:24 am To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <[2]framers@lists.frameusers.com> Hi, Only a comment to the Previous/Next View buttons. Acrobat does have them. To show them click View | Show/Hide | Toolbar Items | Show Page Navigation Tools. Then click Previous View and Next View. However, I agree that almost no-one will know these buttons. None of my colleagues has changed the configuration to Show. Best regards Winfried -----Original Message----- From: Framers [[3]mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint....@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Artman Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 6:32 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Embedding attachments in FM that remain attachments when PDF'd I forgot to mention that there's a pretty rough usability issue with hotspot linking to an embedded PDF: Unless you define it so that it opens in a new tab or Acrobat/Reader window (if a PDF) then the only way a user can navigate 'back' is with Alt+Left Arrow. I cannot find any way to add a "Back" and "Forward" button to the toolbar (and end users likely wouldn't either, if such toolbar buttons are not visible by default!). Oh, and the Alt+Left Arrow only works in Acrobat, not Reader. (Seems Reader will open in a new tab, so not so bad...) Of course, any attachments that open in other applications will generate new windows, between which a user could easily navigate. HTH; David -------- Original Message -------- From: "David Artman" <[1][4]da...@davidartman.com> Date: Thu, August 03, 2017 12:08 pm Perhaps you could make your icons where you want them in FM with the intention of *attaching* the (non-FM, non-PDF) files to the PDF post-distillation. If you can figure out how a PDF attachment can be referenced with a relative path--or, perhaps, as an anchor, like one would do to have a URL call for a specific heading in the PDF?--then you could have the FM URL 'point' to where the PDF attachments will eventually 'live' in the final PDF. (Extra points if you can make the FM icons+links Reference Page elements, for consistent reuse and file-size efficiency!) Sorry I cannot offer exact steps; I offer a map not a guidebook. :^) EDIT: OK, it was not hard to find the first steps; refer to "Link to a file attachment" on this page: [2][5]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__helpx.adobe. com_acrobat_using_links-2Dattachments-2Dpdfs.html&d=DwICAg&c=0YGvTs3tT- VMy8_v51yLDw&r=pdk93NJbIWwQmLZh1EZCoC4wFNMwWj1dp-sJbkswCLE&m=Ww4rLxkKQ4 mKV5WQblrpC-KYETG63ArxDEvCfFrh3-4&s=PEVhWLsGIHUSKDam0ytFIW7vhrcOm8pgOFj 4i4j78BM&e= Screenshot here: [3][6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google .com_file_d_0BwYIazaIFHy4TXVLVl9HNmJCY0U_view-3Fus&d=DwICAg&c=0YGvTs3tT -VMy8_v51yLDw&r=pdk93NJbIWwQmLZh1EZCoC4wFNMwWj1dp-sJbkswCLE&m=Ww4rLxkKQ 4mKV5WQblrpC-KYETG63ArxDEvCfFrh3-4&s=swCPzA6awhQ-awXDeemRMKAIAnE8m1I0gq 3mNOG7G6E&e= p=sharing That takes the perspective of creating the link hotspot in Acrobat; but that's just something you'd do once, pre-production, to get the URL for use in an FM gotolink marker. As to HOW you'd see the underlying URL for the (testing-use) hotspot, I have no idea. There must be some tool that 'decompiles' a PDF so you can see the 'raw code' behind a link hotspot, surely...? Alternately, if you have a relative few 'icons' in the FM to link, you can make one hotspot per icon-PDF attachment pairing and copy & paste them into place. Tedious, perhaps... but then again, so is making an active PDF Form from FM without PDF TimeSavers! ;^) Let us know what you resolve! David -------- Original Message -------- From: John Posada <[4][7]jposad...@gmail.com> Date: Wed, August 02, 2017 10:29 am ... In this case, I didn't want to do a link of any type because where these types of files are kept is in a secure location and people won't get in, though these particular files are not restricted access due to governance approval. I wanted them carried along in and with the PDF to not worry about access permissions. References 1. [8]mailto:da...@davidartman.com 2. 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