Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Douglas Swarin writes:
> : Ideally, I would use one of the IDE flash-based drives on the market. One
> : brand is SanDisk, and they take a standard IDE connector and fit into a
> : 3.5" drive bay. You can get them very reasonably priced up to 128MB or
> : so, which is just fine for a boot partition. Since flash drives have no
> : moving parts, mechanical failure is not an issue, and since the root
> : partition is not written to much, the flash will not wear out for a
> : long time (flash cells wear out after about 100,000 writes; the flash
> : drives do load balancing and stuff to ensure that the (many) cells in
> : the drive are written to evenly).
> 
> We use these devices heavily at Timing Solutions.  Or rather we use
> a IDE <-> CF adapter and haven't had any devices wear out.  And some
> of these devices have had rather heavy use.  I think that it is closer
> to 1 million writes per cell, but I don't have my spec sheets handy.

The newer devices do 1 million writes per cell.  When I left Xylan earlier
this year, some of our early (late '94 or early '95) flash devices were
just beginning to fail.  These were development machines that saw a lot
of write cycles, and their home-grown flash filesystem does a pessimal
job of rewriting the same cells over and over again.

> Are you sure that they do write balancing?  The indications I have
> from the base chip technology is that they don't.  I could have missed
> that in the data sheets.  It has been a little while since I looked at
> them, so I might be misremembering.  I can't seem to find the data
> sheets I looked at before.

SanDisk does, in the controller chip.  Good technology.

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Wes Peters                                                         Softweyr LLC
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