Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: FreeDOS package data fork, sort of

[Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel]

The excel file is a result of my tests that I made while creating the new help version. I simply often looked if there is a new version with bug fixes available and sent the links to Jerome. The list is miles away from being complete. Till now I did not use it for other purposes that cause more work. I do not know how Jerome handles them. Of course I can forward the excel file. Shall I really write a mail to the whole group that I found updates for all this? In this case I will also have to write if it makes sense to remove files too? E.g a comment should be added that chess requires nansi, otherwise it is bs? And that it it makes no sense to update it? Or that zoo from 1991 cannot restore files on fat32 but crashes, there is an actual bugfix, see bttr forum, but I am not sure if someone forwards it to Jerome? Btw: what happened with the promised tree update where I asked for last autumn? As english help is completed now, i only have to run final things to reduce size and to look for bugs etc. It would be great if the fd community could REALLY check it. www.bootablecd.de/FreeDOS-Internet-version/help110/en/index.htm Too avoid at least one bad comment the fish is no longer in blue colour but in grey. It will not be in htmlhelp or amb. Could someone PLEASE PLEASE check if the legal comments are correct? I simple overtook them. What do I have to modify? Is everything else correct? I needed two years to rewrite everything from scratch and have no time to write changes every week from now on as this is the base for at least FOUR other languages. And now the bad news: Mateusz is no longer willing to transform the htm files to amb. I can understand him. As I cannot program, there are several ways to handle this: - one of the group writes a checking and transformation tool htm to amb, I can try to ask Mateusz if he gives out the tool he used till now, - as htmlhelp.exe Works very good now, we only use htmlhelp and avoid double work - I will not rewrite hundreds of files to amb manually, this in 5 languages, please keep in mind that we have more than 350 files * 5 languages! This would need some years - any other idea? One more thing, some programmers think it is a good idea to compile their small programs in different languages, it isnt for several reasons, maybe except tools like kernel and command.com. Nobody compiles them and Jerome has the job to check if there is an update and it is really compiled I wouldnt do so if I were he. As there is a road carneval in Munich tomorrow with the Damische Ritter, damisch has a double meaning - dame is a lady or it means crazy - I am not sure if I can go to the tomorrow meeting. Meeting stsrts at 6 pm, carneval ends at 5 pm. Sorry for overlong text and typos. I wrote the text with my phone. Willi -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit mail.com Mail gesendet. Am 03.02.24, 23:18 schrieb Jim Hall via Freedos-devel <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>: Hi Eric This is a really interesting effort and I think it would be good to find a way to get Willi's efforts integrated somehow into the changelog for the monthly test releases. But as you've mentioned, there's a lot of overlap here. I think the right place to start is to talk about it. But we NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ON THE EMAIL LIST, so everyone can see it and talk about it. That's how "open source" works. I don't know the right solution to this, but if we DISCUSS IT TOGETHER ON THE EMAIL LIST we can figure it out. I imagine there's a way that Willi might create a file (export from his spreadsheet? or some other method?) in some format that the automated distro build system can read, and collate the data into the changelog that way. On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:18 PM Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote: > > > Hi Jim, Willi is working on a spreadsheet which lists: > > website, our gitlab copy URL *or* some contact info or alternate URL, > creator / maintainer, version (in distro versus upstream) and license > > for most of the packages in our distro. This seems to overlap > heavily with metadata in our LSM, so it would be good if we > could combine the data sources somehow. In other words: The > spreadsheet info could be added to our LSM and cases where > the upstream version is newer than ours could be updated. > > Conversely, Willi might be duplicating efforts in finding > package URL, maintainers and contacts in cases where those > listed in the LSM are still valid, so those could be added > to his spreadsheet. > > In general, I sense some risks of duplicate work here! Who > would be the right people to contact to get both metadata > "repositories" merged? Our LSM and that spreadsheet, that > is? And who and how generates our HTML from LSM these days? > > Background is that I would *really* like to get changelog > info when packages get updated. The automated mails that > get triggered by Jerome's toolchain just tell me THAT a > new version got published, and which, but not WHY, nor > WHAT changed in that. So Willi sent me that table in the > hope that it could help me answer the question, while I > think he should not be putting all that effort in some > SEPARATE data table in the first place, but merge that. > > Regards, Eric > _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

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