I agree completely you there is no point in continuing this discussion... i just use freedos to debug games memory and jump back to emulation!
On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 9:56 PM Carlos Teixeira <[email protected]> wrote: > Why FreeDOS if i can use other MS (and others) versions of DOS? 6.22 > should be the best option but, for a special purpose all rounder DOS > computer i'm using (because i lack the space to use several builds) FAT16B > is too limiting. With this in mind i have 2 options: strip DOS outta > Windows 98SE (or just use the CDU 7.1) or FreeDOS. Both allow FAT32. > > Alas, FAT-32 MS-DOS introduces issues of its own with other games. > Starflight 1 and 2 have problems on these installed, and Tsunami Media > games (Man Enough, Return to Ringworld, just to name a few) refuse to run > completely. All these games Run flawlessly on FreeDOS. Considering i > already use several FreeDOS included drivers (CTMouse, mkeyb, HIMEMX, again > just to name a few) there's no reason why i and others can't aspire to use > FreeDOS with better compatibility and usability than the old unmaimtened > and closed source FAT32 DOS or even the older less feature packed 6.22. > > > So you downloaded some of those games and they ran but had speed issues > and exited with error code. Then you tried your Floppy versions and you > report black screen with no errors (same as others and me included had > reported). And you tested all this between 1.3rc4 and 1.3 live on a VM. > Oh... You know what? There's no point in continuing this discussion with > you. The OP made a thread about a video a retro gamer made testing FreeDOS > compatibility with some games on bare metal. This is just turning mind > blowingly non sequitur between DOSBox and VMs so, seriously, let's just end > this. > > A terça, 8/03/2022, 19:20, Joao Silva <[email protected]> escreveu: > >> First of all i'm not Dude if more Sir or Mr. >> I don't know you and certainly i'm not your friend... >> >> Moving on... downloaded the games mentioned above and using my freedos >> 1.3-RC4 i was able to run Test Drive 2 and Grand Prix and Cycles ran the >> intro fast and exited with a error code. >> Test Drive 2 played and exited with a error. >> >> I grabbed my floppies with the same games (except for cycles) they did >> not run, got a black screen and no error output. >> Runnnig on a VM Freedos 1.3-RC4 and 1.3 Live >> >> And the final question what do you want with Freedos if you have and quote >> " >> I also can use from CP/M-86 to all MS-DOS oficial releases to Windows 98 >> stripped FAT32 MS-DOS. PC-DOS, DR-DOS, whatever. >> >> " >> >> They should run games better than Freedos! >> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 8:43 PM Carlos Teixeira <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Dude... I do have the right hardware from an original IBM XT to a couple >>> Turbo XT clones, to a Tandy 1000 SL that i had to mod for 220V, to a 286, >>> 386, 486 and Pentium MMX. >>> >>> I also can use from CP/M-86 to all MS-DOS oficial releases to Windows 98 >>> stripped FAT32 MS-DOS. PC-DOS, DR-DOS, whatever. No point in discussing >>> DOSBox. The point here is: >>> >>> FreeDOS and its ability to run DOS games. In the case of DSI games, >>> there's something specific to the game engine that prevents those games >>> from running, GP Circuit, The Cycles and Test Drive 2. I've had no chance >>> yet but a good thing try might be running a debugger and checking if the >>> code might be stuck in an infinite loop. >>> >>> Planet X3, for instance, despite being programmed for XT class machines >>> that usually use MS-DOS 3.3, had a bug in which the game was stuck in an >>> infinite loop while printing a string just before exiting to DOS. So i took >>> a look into the code and what happened is that INT 29 might trash BX >>> completely which was actually used to point to memory and fetch the >>> characters for the string. BX gets completely trashed so the string never >>> finished and just printed crap on the screen. An isolated problem on a >>> specific version of DOS. >>> >>> This might be what is happening with the DSI games, or might be >>> something entirely different, but the fact that every game that uses the >>> same engine fails to run on FDOS makes it quite obvious that fixing just >>> one of these games will probably fix the rest. This is what we should focus >>> on. >>> >>> A segunda, 7/03/2022, 13:04, Joao Silva <[email protected]> escreveu: >>> >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> Not perfectly... for that you need the right hardware for the game to >>>> run, ms-dos 6.22 or pc-dos 7.0/7.1 and i'm assuming that you don't have >>>> either conditions. >>>> >>>> So dosbox will run most games, you can check the compatibility list >>>> https://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?letter=a and fine tune the cpu >>>> speed on dosbox. >>>> >>>> You can also check dosbox-x with more features. >>>> >>>> You can also check this page for game clones and/or remakes >>>> https://osgameclones.com/, some require compiling the source code. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Freedos-user mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Freedos-user mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > _______________________________________________ > Freedos-user mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >
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