From: Gregg Eshelman <g_ala...@yahoo.com>
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Microsoft has done such things deliberately. I had a Compaq server with dual
slot Xeon CPUs. XP (with a 1-2 CPU license) could be installed but no matter
what, was only going to be allowed to use ONE CPU. Manually forcing the multi
CPU HAL to install during setup (or after) would make it crash.
Microsoft apparently told Compaq to fix their server BIOSes so that only Server
versions of Windows would be allowed to access the full hardware capabilities.
So I put 2000 Server on it and got rid of it.
One thing I've been liking about 10 is that just about any Core 2 Duo or dual
core AMD AM2 and later can run it pretty well, even with only 2 gig RAM. A
socket 939 AMD, even dual core? Not so much. 10 is the first release of Windows
to have lower minimum hardware requirements than its predecessor. Just got done
putting it on a 2.4Ghz Thinkpad T61 with 4gig (and a BIOS modded to remove
hardware whitelist and de-hobble SATA from being limited to version 1 speed),
which I'd seriously be thinking about keeping if it had the 1920x1200 instead
of 1680x1050 display. Need USB 3 and/or eSATA? Pop in an ExpressCard.
I doubt any previous version of Windows would run well, if at all, on hardware
originally released 8~9 years prior.
Put Classic Shell on, turn off all the stuff that phones home, set the window
titlebars to a color instead of white (which Firefox ignores) and it's good to
go.
If you've ever done anything with Windows 1.0 you should notice some
similarities between it and the "Modern" UI. They both have non-overlapping
tiles with active content, and there's this black bar across the bottom. Square
corners everywhere (excepting the round ended buttons Apple sued MS over,
square cornered buttons were made to satisfy Apple). Flat, saturated colors
with a heavy emphasis on white, magenta, cyan and black. "3D" effects? Not
there, just like Windows was through 3.0.
Someone at MS has a bad case of nostalgia for Windows 1.0 running on a CGA
monitor.
On Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 3:09:07 PM MDT, dmccunney
<dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> wrote:On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Dale E
Sterner <sunbeam...@juno.com> wrote:
> With windows if your PC dies and you want to move
> to a dupicate and keep running - your out of luck.
(One annoying quirk was that it was a quad-core machine but
Win10 only saw two cores.-a The Xeon CPU is used wasn't on the
"supported by Win10 list Intel maintains.-a The i5-2400 in the new box
is, and Win10 sees and uses all four cores.)
Something like that happened in the Win Vista days.-a MS wanted
everyone on Vista, but some of the hardware in the pipeline wasn't
really up to running it.-a (Mostly, inadequate video.)-a MS created a
new level of certification - Vista Capable - so hardware vendors could
put it on the box.-a Jim Allchin, who was SVP in charge of Windows
development at the time, was livid.-a He felt, correctly, that the
hardware would not provide a good experience for users and that MS
would get yet another black eye in the marketplace.-a MS really should
have waited 6 months for a new generation of hardware that would
properly support Vista, but wanted to make XP go away.
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<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><div><div>Microsoft has done such things
deliberately. I had a Compaq server with dual slot Xeon CPUs. XP (with a 1-2
CPU license) could be installed but no matter what, was only going to be
allowed to use ONE CPU. Manually forcing the multi CPU HAL to install during
setup (or after) would make it crash.<br></div></div><div>Microsoft apparently
told Compaq to fix their server BIOSes so that only Server versions of Windows
would be allowed to access the full hardware capabilities. So I put 2000 Server
on it and got rid of it.</div><div><br></div><div>One thing I've been liking
about 10 is that just about any Core 2 Duo or dual core AMD AM2 and later can
run it pretty well, even with only 2 gig RAM. A socket 939 AMD, even dual core?
Not so much. 10 is the first release of Windows to have lower minimum hardware
requirements than its predecessor. Just got done putting it on a 2.4Ghz
Thinkpad T61 with 4gig (and a BIOS modded to remove hardware whitelist and
de-hobble SATA from being limited to version 1 speed), which I'd seriously be
thinking about keeping if it had the 1920x1200 instead of 1680x1050 display.
Need USB 3 and/or eSATA? Pop in an ExpressCard.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I
doubt any previous version of Windows would run well, if at all, on hardware
originally released 8~9 years prior.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Put Classic
Shell on, turn off all the stuff that phones home, set the window titlebars to
a color instead of white (which Firefox ignores) and it's good to
go.</div><div><br></div><div>If you've ever done anything with Windows 1.0 you
should notice some similarities between it and the "Modern" UI. They both have
non-overlapping tiles with active content, and there's this black bar across
the bottom. Square corners everywhere (excepting the round ended buttons Apple
sued MS over, square cornered buttons were made to satisfy Apple). Flat,
saturated colors with a heavy emphasis on white, magenta, cyan and black. "3D"
effects? Not there, just like Windows was through
3.0.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Someone at MS has a bad case of nostalgia for
Windows 1.0 running on a CGA monitor.<br></div><div><br></div><div
id="ydpe47c0fc0ydp634737eyahoo_quoted_3014078887"
class="ydpe47c0fc0ydp634737eyahoo_quoted" data-class="yahoo_quoted
ydp634737eyahoo_quoted"><div>On Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 3:09:07 PM MDT,
dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> wrote:</div><div><div dir="ltr">On
Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Dale E Sterner <<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:sunbeam...@juno.com"; rel="nofollow"
target="_blank">sunbeam...@juno.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> With
windows if your PC dies and you want to move<br clear="none">> to a dupicate
and keep running - your out of luck.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">(One
annoying quirk was that it was a quad-core machine but<br clear="none">Win10
only saw two cores. The Xeon CPU is used wasn't on the<br
clear="none">"supported by Win10 list Intel maintains. The i5-2400 in the
new box<br clear="none">is, and Win10 sees and uses all four cores.)<br
clear="none"><br clear="none">Something like that happened in the Win Vista
days. MS wanted<br clear="none">everyone on Vista, but some of the
hardware in the pipeline wasn't<br clear="none">really up to running it.
(Mostly, inadequate video.) MS created a<br clear="none">new level of
certification - Vista Capable - so hardware vendors could<br clear="none">put
it on the box. Jim Allchin, who was SVP in charge of Windows<br
clear="none">development at the time, was livid. He felt, correctly, that
the<br clear="none">hardware would not provide a good experience for users and
that MS<br clear="none">would get yet another black eye in the
marketplace. MS really should<br clear="none">have waited 6 months for a
new generation of hardware that would<br clear="none">properly support Vista,
but wanted to make XP go away.</div></div></div></div></body></html>
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