Hi Zeke,
thanks for the info.  we had installed the 64 bit lion version of freesurfer.  
perhaps the trac-all was engaged from the wrong (older) directory.  I am nuking 
the old versions. and will try it again

Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Z K" <zkauf...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
Cc: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" <sholl...@uwm.edu>, "freesurfer" 
<freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 5:15:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts

Yes, you are correct. I sometimes forget these log files keep appending.

But when I look at the last call of trac-all it says 
"freesurfer-Darwin-snowleopard-i686-stable-pub-v5.3.0" which is the 
32bit OSX build of FreeSurfer. The 64bit version is called 
""freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0" and I dont see that 
referenced anywhere in the log file. So it looks like that solution was 
never actually attempted.

Im not 100% convinced this will solve your problem, but the error you 
are getting is almost always solved by using the 64bit version, so 
please download and install the 64bit version from the link I provided 
earlier:

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/5.3.0/freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0.dmg

Hopefully that takes care of it. Make sure that 
"freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0" is referenced in the log 
file. If you still get the error please contact us again and we'll go 
from there.

-Zeke



On 12/04/2013 05:55 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> hi zeke,
>
> thanks for the help
>   in the log file, if you look at the last new invocation of trac-all, it 
> indicates that it a runing the freesurefer 5.3 version
>
> Excerpt from Log file:
>
> New invocation of trac-all
>
>
> Wed Dec  4 12:02:28 CST 2013
> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1064/data
> /Applications/Freesurfer5.3/bin/trac-all
> -prep -c dmrirc_single_subject
> Subject freesurfer
> SUBJECTS_DIR 
> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1064/data
> FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/Freesurfer5.3
> Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/Freesurfer5.3
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Z K" <zkauf...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" <sholl...@uwm.edu>
> Cc: "Anastasia Yendiki" <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>, 
> freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu, "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:29:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts
>
> According to the log file you sent, you are running freesurfer 5.1,
> leopard version.
>
> And now that I am looking at your previous email, it seems you were
> running the freesurfer 5.1 leopard version in that case too.
>
> It also looks like you are indeed running a 32bit snow leopard machine
> so please move (or completely erase) any previously installed version of
> freesurfer you have on your machine and download and install this one.
>
>
>
>
> -Zeke
>
>
> On 12/04/2013 03:21 PM, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
>> Hi Zeke,
>>
>> Thanks for the help. We installed the 64bit version and got the same error.
>>
>> INFO: Distances between consecutive points in test subject's space are 5 5 6 
>> 5
>> Writing output files to 
>> /BrainLabDocs/studies/nicotine_mj_ecstasy_study/data/MRI/N1064/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP_avg23_mni_flt_*
>> dmri_train(65940) malloc: *** mmap(size=159744) failed (error code=12)
>> *** error: can't allocate region
>> *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
>> MRIalloc(218, 182, 182): could not allocate 158704 bytes for 98th slice
>>
>> Cannot allocate memory
>>
>> I've attached the error log for trac-all in case you need.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>> Skyler and Jon
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Z K" <zkauf...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>> To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" <sholl...@uwm.edu>
>> Cc: "Anastasia Yendiki" <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>, 
>> freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:46:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts
>>
>> It looks like your running 32bit freesurfer on a 64bit machine with snow
>> leopard installed on it. In this case You will have to install the 64bit
>> version of freesurfer instead of the 32bit version you installed previously.
>>
>> You can get the version you need from the following link:
>>
>> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/5.3.0/freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0.dmg
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>> -Zeke
>>
>> On 12/04/2013 10:34 AM, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
>>> Hi Anastasia,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help. We updated to version 5.3 and received this error:
>>> INFO: Distances between consecutive points in test subject's space are 5 5 
>>> 6 5
>>> Writing output files to 
>>> /BrainLabDocs/studies/nicotine_mj_ecstasy_study/data/MRI/N1064/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP_avg23_mni_flt_*
>>> dmri_train(44276) malloc: *** mmap(size=159744) failed (error code=12)
>>> *** error: can't allocate region
>>> *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
>>> MRIalloc(218, 182, 182): could not allocate 158704 bytes for 98th slice
>>>
>>> Cannot allocate memory
>>>
>>> We use Mac OS X 10.6.8 Snowleopard.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Skyler
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>> To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" <sholl...@uwm.edu>
>>> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:19:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Skyler - I would *highly* recommend using the version of tracula in
>>> 5.3, as there have been improvements in both performance and speed.
>>>
>>> You can check the DWI to anatomical registration by overlaying the
>>> aparc+aseg from the dlabel/diff directory (which is in diffusion space) on
>>> the FA map. Does that look ok?
>>>
>>> a.y
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Anastasia,
>>>>
>>>> We're using 5.1. It's likely poor registration. The aparc+aseg. looked 
>>>> fine. Is there anything to do about poor registration?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the fast reply. Truly appreciated.
>>>> Skyler
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" <ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" <sholl...@uwm.edu>
>>>> Cc: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 2, 2013 4:27:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Skyler - Are you using freesurfer 5.1 or 5.3?
>>>>
>>>> Most likely this issue is due to poor registration, either from the
>>>> individual DWI to the individual T1, or from the individual T1 to the
>>>> template space. Or it could be that there is a problem with the
>>>> aparc+aseg.
>>>>
>>>> a.y
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been running DTI using tracula (fs version 5) for over 1 week on 2 
>>>>> subjects. It appears that it is having difficulty finding satisfactory 
>>>>> control point fit and has attempted over 1600 tries. Any help is greatly 
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>> See error below:
>>>>>
>>>>> INFO: Distances between consecutive points are 25 24 25 26
>>>>> WARN: Could not find satisfactory control point fit - try 1665
>>>>> Finding center streamline
>>>>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>>>>> WARN: Turning off FA check for center streamline
>>>>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>>>>> WARN: Turning off deviation check for center streamline
>>>>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>>>>> INFO: Length of center streamline is 96 voxels
>>>>> Selecting 5 points on center streamline
>>>>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>>>>> WARN: Defaulting to equidistant control points
>>>>> INFO: Selected control points are
>>>>>     108 193 84
>>>>>     112 173 72
>>>>>     98 153 75
>>>>>     74 157 75
>>>>>     74 184 86
>>>>> INFO: Distances between consecutive points are 24 25 24 29
>>>>> WARN: Could not find satisfactory control point fit - try 1666
>>>>> Finding center streamline
>>>>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>>>>> WARN: Turning off FA check for center streamline
>>>>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>>>>> WARN: Turning off deviation check for center streamline
>>>>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Skyler
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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