Just the subfields ;-)
Juan Eugenio Iglesias Senior research fellow CMIC (UCL), MGH (HMS) and CSAIL (MIT) http://www.jeiglesias.com From: <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Jenna Katherine Blujus <jkblu...@uwm.edu> Reply-To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 18:11 To: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Hippocampal Subfield Misalignment External Email - Use Caution Hi Eugenio, Great, thank you! One last question - after I edit the aseg and wmparc files would you recommend that I only rerun the recon-all hippocampal-subfields-T2 step or should I rerun certain autorecon steps of recon-all? Thank you! Jenna Jenna K. Blujus, M.S. Graduate Student Neurobiology of Aging Laboratory University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee jkblu...@uwm.edu ________________________________ From: Jenna Katherine Blujus <jkblu...@uwm.edu> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:36 AM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: Freesurfer Hippocampal Subfield Misalignment Hi Eugenio, Thank you for the tips! This has happened to a number of my subjects but I have finished editing the HC label in their aseg files. How would I copy the HC from aseg.mgz to wmparc.mgz? Can you clarify what you mean by "you still need to fix the surrounding labels"? Thank you, Jenna Message: 3 Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 20:53:12 +0000 From: "Iglesias Gonzalez, Juan E." <jiglesiasgonza...@mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Hippocampal Subfield Misalignment To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <85489126-5dc1-4464-810b-01a7e8258...@mgh.harvard.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear Jenna, 1.Manually editing aseg.mgz fixes the initialization (super important). 2.Manually editing wmparc.mgz fixes the intensity priors (less important, but still important) If it?s only 1 subject in a bigger study, I?d probably call it a QC fail and leave it out. If it?s a single case you?re very interested in, I would edit both aseg.mgz and wmparc.mgz (you can copy the hippocampus from one into the other, but you still need to fix the surrounding labels). Cheers, /Eugenio Juan Eugenio Iglesias Senior research fellow CMIC (UCL), MGH (HMS) and CSAIL (MIT) https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeiglesias.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cjkblujus%40uwm.edu%7C3cfb2d05fcb846c4069f08d82351aa41%7C0bca7ac3fcb64efd89eb6de97603cf21%7C1%7C0%7C637298180959768442&sdata=YHDbC41mQEhaCDMkRMPGsj4UE1cG8sLINz6e3xsV0v4%3D&reserved=0 Reply Forward Jenna K. Blujus, M.S. Graduate Student Neurobiology of Aging Laboratory University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee jkblu...@uwm.edu ________________________________ From: Jenna Katherine Blujus Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:23 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Freesurfer Hippocampal Subfield Misalignment Hi Experts, I ran the hippocampal subfield segmentation protocol using a T2 image that does not cover the whole brain in Freesurfer v6.0. I noticed that the alignment of the ?h.hippoSfLabels-T2.v10 output to the anatomical boundaries of the hippocampus in some of my subjects is off. For example, the left hippocampal subfield segmentation in one subject is superior and medial to the hippocampus. I checked the aseg.presurf file (since I am using v6.0) and indeed the whole left hippocampus is off. I saw in a previous thread (https://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg23942.html) that it was suggested to edit the hippocampal segmentation within the aseg file to potentially improve alignment of the subfield segmentation. However, a more recent post (https://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg54543.html) stated that both the wmparc.mgz and aseg.mgz files would need to be edited and that this was not recommended. Do you have any recommendations on how to move forward? I did edit the hippocampal segmentation within the aseg.presurf file in one of my subjects and reran the subfield segmentation command which substantially improved the output (i.e., it overlays on the hippocampus after correction). Would you suggest that I continue with editing the aseg using previously published protocols on segmenting the hippocampus by hand or would you recommend something else? Thanks in advance! Jenna
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