--- F R E N D Z of martian --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "nettime's_roving_reporter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 2:29 PM Subject: <nettime> FBI and Cryptome > <http://cryptome.org/fbi-psia.htm> > > 20 July 2000 > _________________________________________________________________ > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 20 July 2000 > Subject: PSIA Request > > July 20, 2000 > > Federal Bureau of Investigation > NCCS, New York > C37 > > Dear FBI, > > This confirms my telephone remarks today that I decline > your request to remove the list of members of Japan's > Public Security Investigation Agency posted on Cryptome: > > http://cryptome.org/psia-lists.htm > > The file shall not be removed except in response to a US > court order. > > You have informed me that your telephone request to remove > the list was made at the request of the Japanese Ministry of > Justice and that no US criminal investigation is underway in this > matter. > > You said that you will convey to the Ministry of Justice that I > have declined to remove the list and that I should expect > to be contacted directly by the Ministry of Justice as a result > of declining to remove the list. > > You said that you will speak to the US Attorney and call me > again. > > I have agreed with your request not to identify the two FBI Special > Agents to whom I spoke today. > > I told you that I would be publishing an account of this on Cryptome. > > Regards, > > John Young > Cryptome > _________________________________________________________________ > > Note: Yes, it is contradictory that Cryptome will publish the PSIA > names but not those of the FBI Special Agents. The senior Special > Agent said at the end of the conversation that if his and the other > agent's names were published "you are going to be in real trouble." > Until that time both agents had been very polite. He then said he was > going to take the matter up with the US Attorney and call again. > > So we're brooding on that threat, pondering the FBI names on this > notepad, comparing this situation with that of the MI6 names and the > MI5 names and the Iranian names and the PSIA names and the CIA names > Cryptome has published. In none of the other instances was Cryptome > threatened. And are wondering why the FBI carnivores deserve privacy > we don't get from them and the world's surveillance agencies. > > More later. > > Meanwhile, if curious send an inquiry to the FBI address on our > e-mail. Or telephone: 212-384-3155. > _________________________________________________________________ > > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:34:27 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PSIA Request > > July 21, 2000 > > Federal Bureau of Investigation > NCCS, New York > C37 > > Dear FBI, > > This supplements my message yesterday on declining to > remove a list of names of members of Japan's Public Security > Investigation Agency from the Internet site Cryptome.org. > > In that message I wrote that I agreed with your request to not > identify the two Special Agents who spoke to me on this matter. > > After reflecttion on this I have decided that publishing the names > of the Special Agents would be consistent with publishing the > names of the PSIA members, and in both cases the purpose > of publishing is to contribute to public awareness of how > government functions and to identify who performs those > functions. I believe this is why the two Special Agents readily > identified themselves to me and that it would be appropriate > for me to share that information with readers of Cryptome. > > Therefore I shall publish the names of the two Special Agents > who spoke with me at: > > http://cryptome.org/fbi-psia.htm > > Sincerely, > > John Young > Cryptome > _________________________________________________________________ > > The FBI Special Agent who initially telephoned was James Castano. Mr. > Castano explained the Ministry of Justice request to remove the PSIA > material and answered all my questions about it. I explained my > intention to publish an account of the FBI's request on Cryptome > because there had been interest in how such requests are processed > between governments. I asked if I could provide his name in the > account. He asked with emphasis that I not do so. I agreed. > > In the course of discussing my sending an e-mail to Mr. Castano, his > supervisor, Special Agent Dave Marzigliano (I believe he spelled > it), came on the phone and repeated the information Mr. Castano > provided about the Ministry of Justice request. > > Both agents were very courteous during most of the conversations. > Except toward the end of the conversation with Mr. Marzigliano, when I > mentioned my intention to publish an account without revealing his and > Mr. Castano's names, he warned me there would be "serious trouble" if > their names were published, and that he would be speaking with the US > Attorney about the matter and call me again. > > Mr. Marzigliano did not explain why their two names should be > concealed, why there would be "serious trouble" if revealed, what > "serious trouble" meant, the legal basis for such trouble, nor what it > was in my comments that alarmed him. > _________________________________________________________________ > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent to you via the frendz list at marsbard.com The archive is at http://www.mail-archive.com/frendz@marsbard.com/
