Haidt has a nice TED talk<http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind.html>based on the book.
My sense is that a lot of it is emotional--rather than rational--for a lot of people. Nick, how did your experiment go? We might do the experiment here. One standard way of proceeding is to paraphrase (in as positive a way as possible) the position of the person who just spoke. That would demonstrate that the new speaker at least understands the position of the previous speaker. A second approach (which does not preclude the first) is to be as honest as one can about the emotional content of one's own position. E.g., "I favor X because not-X makes me feel icky." Anyone care to suggest a topic and start? Nick, Jochen, how about one of you. *-- Russ Abbott* *_____________________________________________* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki <http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/> and the courses I teach *_____________________________________________* On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Nicholas Thompson < nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Jochen, **** > > ** ** > > At this week’s FRIAM meeting, we talked briefly about politics and it was > clear that there was some disagreement around the table. We were about to > let it go, on that ground, when I decided, spurred by my newly embraced > pragmatist ideology, to beg that they all put their minds for 5 minutes to > the question, “How do we go about having a conversation with people with > whom we disagree? A conversation that would actually get somewhere.” *** > * > > ** ** > > Our usual way of proceding is what I call “FogHorns on a Shrouded Bay.” > Each individual sounds off while the others listen politely or check their > email on their cell phones. That goes around the circle a couple of times, > and then people just drop the topic and go on to something else. **** > > ** ** > > On the whole, most people I know would rather be force fed castor oil than > be convinced to change their minds.**** > > ** ** > > So, back to you, Jochen. Is it truly different where you are? Have you > ever sat in on a political discussion in which anybody ever changed his or > her mind? How did that happen? **** > > ** ** > > Nick**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Jochen > Fromm > *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2012 3:20 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The Presidential Election**** > > ** ** > > Interesting read. Sometimes we wonder why other peoples voting decisions > are fundamentally different from ours even if all good reasons speak > against it. Are they backward or brainwashed? Jonathan Haidt has written a > book named "The Righteous Mind" where he argues that people don't really > listen to arguments or reasons. Guided by their emotions, they often come > to a quick conclusion what is good or bad, and this decision is in > accordance with their worldview and their moral system (regardless how > skewed it may be). > > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 > > -J. > > Am 03.11.2012 21:18, schrieb Roger Critchlow: **** > > Here's how backward the conservative heart of america beats:**** > > ** ** > > http://www.thebaffler.com/past/the_long_con**** > > ** ** > > -- rec --**** > > ** ** > > > > > **** > > ============================================================**** > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv**** > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College**** > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org**** > > ** ** > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >
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