Owen, I've certainly been seeing some FRIAM messages out of order (especially 
about two days ago), but I never got around to looking at the headers as you 
suggested.

Gary

On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:

> OK, I presume this means I'm the only one seeing this problem?
> 
> So I'll start messing with my hosting service etc.  Damn.
> 
> If any of you looked at this, do let me know so I do not Flail In Darkness.
> 
>    -- Owen
> 
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:
> I've been getting friam email out of order and/or delayed and decided
> to poke at it a bit, mainly because my mail path is a bit complex
> being forwarded from my hosting service to gmail.
> 
> Here are two headers, reformatted for readability and normalized to
> PST.  They both show a considerable delay coming out of hostgo,
> friam's hosting service (marked via **)
> 
> Could any of you check either these two emails or any others that were
> delayed for you and see if you say a delay from milan.hostgo.com?
> Don't forget to normalize to UMT or PST or whatever.  And let me know
> if I'm mis-interpreting the header data!
> 
> There are other header elements within the time stamps, some of which
> may point to problems (friam bounces for example and possible
> spam/authentication notations), but for now I'm only interested to see
> if other folks see delays in the outgoing hostgo server.  If so we can
> submit a hostgo service request.
> 
> Now back to our regular programming!
> 
>    -- Owen
> 
> ////
> Roger Critchlow: The Professors’ Big Stage
> [9:43:14] Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:43:14 -0700
> 
> [09:43:14] Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:43:14 -0800 (PST)
> X-Received: by 10.112.87.132 with SMTP id ay4mr1336534lbb.87.1362764594229;
>         Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:43:14 -0800 (PST)
> 
> [09:43:14] Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:43:14 -0800 (PST)
> Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ec20so1934769lab.37
>         for <friam@redfish.com>; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:43:14 -0800 (PST)
> 
> [9:43:22] Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:43:22 -0500
> Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com ([209.85.215.50]:40515)
>         by milan.hostgo.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80)
>         (envelope-from <rogercritch...@gmail.com>) id 1UE1K8-0003cg-EX
>         for friam@redfish.com; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:43:22 -0500
> 
> [9:43:25] Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:43:25 -0500
> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50882 helo=milan.hostgo.com)
>         by milan.hostgo.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80)
>         (envelope-from <friam-boun...@redfish.com>)
>         id 1UE1KG-0003f7-TE; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:43:25 -0500
> 
> ** [4:06:03] Sat,  9 Mar 2013 12:06:03 +0000 (UTC)
> Received: from milan.hostgo.com (unknown [216.218.220.34])
>         by heather.textdrive.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22A9D2968B2;
>         Sat,  9 Mar 2013 12:06:03 +0000 (UTC)
> 
> [04:06:05] Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:06:05 -0800 (PST)
> Received: from heather.textdrive.us (heather.textdrive.us. [199.192.243.48])
>         by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 
> tm6si11197883pbc.55.2013.03.09.04.06.05;
>         Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:06:05 -0800 (PST)
> 
> [04:06:06] Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:06:06 -0800 (PST)
> X-Received: by 10.68.136.138 with SMTP id qa10mr10834943pbb.20.1362830766092;
>         Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:06:06 -0800 (PST)
> 
> [04:06:07] Sat, 9 Mar 2013 04:06:07 -0800 (PST)
> Received: by 10.216.116.6 with SMTP id f6csp28660weh;
>         Sat, 9 Mar 2013 04:06:07 -0800 (PST)
> 
> ////
> 
> Curt McNamara: Learning by transcribing/translating
> [20:03:05] Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 22:03:05 -0600
> 
> Received: by 10.42.130.200 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:03:05 -0800 (PST)
> Received: by 10.42.130.200 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:03:05 -0800 (PST)
> 
> [20:03:06] Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:03:06 -0800 (PST)
> X-Received: by 10.50.187.225 with SMTP id fv1mr553402igc.74.1362715386032;
>         Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:03:06 -0800 (PST)
> 
> [20:03:06] Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:03:06 -0800 (PST)
> Received: by mail-ia0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x24so1105863iak.24
>         for <friam@redfish.com>; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:03:06 -0800 (PST)
> 
> [20:03:07] Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:03:07 -0500
> Received: from mail-ia0-f179.google.com ([209.85.210.179]:58751)
>         by milan.hostgo.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80)
>         (envelope-from <curt...@gmail.com>) id 1UDoWQ-0001ST-Af
>         for friam@redfish.com; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:03:07 -0500
> 
> [20:03:09] Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:03:09 -0500
> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51506 helo=milan.hostgo.com)
>         by milan.hostgo.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80)
>         (envelope-from <friam-boun...@redfish.com>)
>         id 1UDoWT-0001T6-9C; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:03:09 -0500
> 
> ** [01:26:53] Sat,  9 Mar 2013 09:26:53 +0000 (UTC)
> Received: from milan.hostgo.com (unknown [216.218.220.34])
>         by heather.textdrive.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4119A296A09;
>         Sat,  9 Mar 2013 09:26:53 +0000 (UTC)
> 
> [01:26:55] Sat, 09 Mar 2013 01:26:55 -0800 (PST)
> Received: from heather.textdrive.us (heather.textdrive.us. [199.192.243.48])
>         by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 
> rz8si10500290pbc.87.2013.03.09.01.26.54;
>         Sat, 09 Mar 2013 01:26:55 -0800 (PST)
> 
> [01:26:56] Sat, 9 Mar 2013 01:26:56 -0800 (PST)
> Received: by 10.216.116.6 with SMTP id f6csp24775weh;
>         Sat, 9 Mar 2013 01:26:56 -0800 (PST)
> 
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