Gentlemen and ladies, 

There seem to be many diverse combatants demanding that we align our minds to 
facilitate their agendas or delusions. 
 Am I ,your enemy if I choose to think for myself. Why must I accept unwanted 
fear from pundits. 

It is very difficult to exist as an independent entity.   

Control freaks on either side expect us to capitulate and surrender our minds 
when all we want is to enjoy a few days more 
of a too short life. 
I expect the American nation will go through another  civil war now. 
I hope the cold air keeps your issues contained to the south. 

These Control Freaks are running amok yet we still deny they exist. 
Do control freaks eventually destroy sentience, is it their goal? 

I am saddened by your failure to adapt. The contagion, fear, i s leaking 
through the rickety 
northern border and we also have to  ask , Just who or what  is the real 
enemy?? 

You were humanities Highest  Standard, you led  the  entire world to follow, 
now you fight amongst  yourselves. 
. 
Take a deep breath and gather your wits. Its not the end yet. 
It may have been a hard blow but you have survived much worse. 
If you need help , we are still standing with you. 
  
The Radical Moderate 
vib 



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From: "Steven A Smith" <sasm...@swcp.com> 
To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" <friam@redfish.com> 
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:34:25 PM 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Trump Is Just A Normal Polling Error Behind Clinton | 
FiveThirtyEight 


Until fairly recently I didn't realize that "Populism" carried a negative 
connotation.  I had always heard it as a positive thing... 

The tie between populism and the rise of fascism changed that for me.   I 
suppose *pure* populism is in fact fine, the awareness that the general 
population, the overwhelming majority of the citizenry, when pushed, can stand 
up to the elite (economic or political or both) who tend to find ways to run 
things for their own purposes without regard to the interests of the masses. 
It seems that the current use of the term "populism" implies that the extant 
elite de-facto rulers can have THEIR lunch handed to them by another elite set 
of wanna-bes through the duping of the populace.   Hitler's rise to power was 
apparently on the rising tide of a disaffected populace through the use of 
"demagoguery, scapegoating, and conspiracism" according to Fritzsche.  This 
sounds just a bit (lot) too much like the working style of Herr Donald Drumpf 
this round.   

I don't like being manipulated by "the powers that be", but it isn't a bit more 
fun to have "the powers that wanna be" manipulate me into helping them have 
their wishes.  I *hope* some of Trumps Trumpeteers come to recognize how they 
were duped in what to me seems like a fairly obvious manner.  

And meanwhile I hope that the rest of the world can learn something of this 
movement from us (and the Brexiteers before us). 
<sigh> 


On 11/10/16 7:40 PM, Sarbajit Roy wrote: 




http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/ 

It seems that depressed economies imply we are going to have a rash of fascism 
everywhere. Here's to World War III. Cheers. 



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Gary Schiltz < g...@naturesvisualarts.com > 
wrote: 

<blockquote>
Well put. This is not a game.  



On Tuesday, November 8, 2016, Marcus Daniels < mar...@snoutfarm.com > wrote: 

<blockquote>
"The fact that world H and world D are such closely adjacent possibles is what 
I am savoring (in the sense of morbid fascination) for roughly the next 24-36 
hours. " 

To first order, this isn't about the ideological aspirations of one candidate 
vs. the other (or the completely irrelevant others).  It's about choosing 
between a person who can and has managed in relevant circumstances, and a 
man-child that obviously needs to be managed and who obviously draws-from and 
amplifies the worst in people, has many indicators of an authoritarian 
personality, and is a likely target for blackmail and manipulation by foreign 
powers.   The potential upside of this non-contest  is that a thinker and 
policy wonk may sneak through as the winner by default.  Even stranger is that 
it would be historic -- and somehow that is almost a footnote.    The whole 
thing is surreal and even scarier than Brexit. 

Marcus 




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