I loved it. metaphors or no.
I am laid up, right now, and so won’t have much to say for a bit. Keep up the good work, you guys. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:17 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought Thanks, Steve. The metaphor allusion was a not very humorous way to make the pointer to my little book allegedly relevant. As Nick pointed out, the title itself is a metaphor. The dictionary definition of "legacy" mentions money or other posessions which are left in a bequest. There are some phrases in the text which are unambiguously metaphors. I would be very interested in feedback about the book. Not because I expect to improve it but just because... Nick says that his father, a publisher, always said, "You should only become a writer if you can't do anything else". I think he was talking about earning prospects. It's interesting that the Android mail editor won't let me punctuate the quote correctly. Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jul 24, 2017 8:36 PM, "Steve" <sasm...@swcp.com <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com> > wrote: I just ordered my copy yesterday. It IS conceivable that you avoided all use of literary metaphor. In this very sentence I used at least 2 conceptual metaphors. Nick might only acknowledge literary metaphors? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2017, at 9:42 PM, "Frank Wimberly" <wimber...@gmail.com > <mailto:wimber...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > There have been no entries in the competition to find a metaphor in this book: > > https://www.amazon.com/New-Mexico-Legacy-Frank-Wimberly/dp/1548003360 > > By the way, the title doesn't count. > > Frank > > > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > wimber...@gmail.com <mailto:wimber...@gmail.com> > wimbe...@cal.berkeley.edu <mailto:wimbe...@cal.berkeley.edu> > Phone: (505) 995-8715 <tel:%28505%29%20995-8715> Cell: (505) 670-9918 > <tel:%28505%29%20670-9918> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com > <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> ] On Behalf Of Vladimyr > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:02 PM > To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought > > Glen, > > I already use AutoHotKey Script to run Code in Maple Math and Dump .txt > vertex data embedded in Processing 3 code (some Java offshoot) The autoHotKey > assembles the hundreds of images and 3D objects into ordered sets and then > runs MovieMaker to produce video .wmv, which you have seen already. > > It was my intention to convert the functional routines from Maple directly > into Processing and share that code widely. > But few people other than web artists use Processing and it does not seem > able to run on a web site. I guess this is a general problem or short coming. > > Processing graphics are fast and surprisingly good, better than I am used to > elsewhere. > I will try and write the Processing version of the Maple guts and get it out > but it may take sometime and others will have to install the Processing > engine which is free but sort of clunky to set up. > > There are a number of issues that all this cross talk introduces such as > while Processing does crank out 3D object files readily accepted by 3D > printers. > But it handles colors strangely and seems unable to mix these objects with > solid primitives during object creation. A task probably better suited to CAD > packages. > > If this is done you will probably by amazed at all the useless junk that > pours out at the far end. Like my undergrads trying to build a toboggan out > of concrete. > > One issue I see is that the more removed the operator the less incentive he > will have to connect his actions to the distant outcome. > There was a profound moment in my memory when you and Nick , I think, dabbled > with misinterpretation vs premature registration... > I noticed that from the video I had a choice to imagine a squiggly line, a > worm, a leaf or a set of leaves with a flower if I waited a bit longer. I > thought of the process as a series of unfolding Emergence events passing by > very quickly and soon forgotten when the last was accepted. > > Perhaps we jump through Metaphoric fiery rings till we think we understand. > Thank-you again for the suggestions. > I worry a bit about keeping this process as easy and transparent as possible, > avoiding Python or Anaconda's. > inSilico Ecology as an idea has startling possibilities. Energy flow will > make that possible I think. But just where do I start...Hmmm > > vladimyr > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com > <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> ] On Behalf Of glen ? > Sent: July-19-17 11:17 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought > > > If the forum expresses irritation, then we can take it offline. Otherwise, I > will treat them like I like to be treated ... voyeurism can be a good thing. > 8^) > > Rather than (or in addition to) using pseudo-random number generators, do > something like: > > 1) https://api.random.org/guidelines, > 2) use other numbers, like the number of hits you get when you google > something (e.g. a source code function), > 3) invoke a script engine and allow me to place some scripted functions on a > website that you import and execute, > 4) pass along some subset of the functions you're using, perhaps in > pseudo-code, so that we can modify or suggest different ones that you then > incorporate. > > Of these (3) is the most interesting to me. But even (4) would be cool. > >> On 07/18/2017 05:19 PM, Vladimyr wrote: >> I intentionally left openings in the code that should allow independent >> operators even AI to attempt to generate some structures to prove that very >> few shapes are recognizable. >> [...] >> If you have any more suggestions on removing myself from the process please >> advise. Perhaps directly so as not to clutter the forum. >> I will soon attempt to use random number generators. >> [...] > > -- > ☣ glen > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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