Jay Hanson:

>Tainter defines "collapse" as a "rapid transformation to a lower degree of
>complexity, typically involving significantly less energy consumption
>(Tainter 1988)".  This may or may not include widespread violence.  In fact
>"collapse" could look a lot like the kind of society some people are
>advocating.
>


Well, perhaps.  But in Russia and the Balkans, things seem to be getting
more complicated rather than less.  In both cases it is doubtful that they
will shake themselves down to a lower level of complexity.

Ed Weick


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