Jay Hanson:
>Tainter defines "collapse" as a "rapid transformation to a lower degree of
>complexity, typically involving significantly less energy consumption
>(Tainter 1988)". This may or may not include widespread violence. In fact
>"collapse" could look a lot like the kind of society some people are
>advocating.
>
Well, perhaps. But in Russia and the Balkans, things seem to be getting
more complicated rather than less. In both cases it is doubtful that they
will shake themselves down to a lower level of complexity.
Ed Weick