RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky

[Cordell, Arthur: ECOM]

How about late departures and arrivals as parts are replaced?  Or as air crews are shuttled around the country?   How about bumped flights in order to fly full aircraft?   How about lost luggage? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Harry Pollard Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:10 AM To: 'Lawrence deBivort'; 'Salvador Sánchez'; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky Lawry,   Well said!   An airline would not dare to accept poor maintenance – no matter that its cheaper.   The best way to go bankrupt is to have a couple of crashes.   Whether from El Salvador, or Fiji, or the US – the maintenance had better be excellent.   Harry   ******************************* Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles Box 655  Tujunga  CA 91042 818 352-4141 *******************************    From: Lawrence deBivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:13 AM To: 'Salvador Sánchez'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky   I’ve been following this matter of outsourcing airline maintenance carefully.  It seems that some of the comments hide a bias against 3rd world maintenance. But is there really any reason to think that maintenance performed by El Salvadorans would be inferior to that performed by US, Canadian, or European crews?  I doubt it. We white folks haven’t quite yet digested the understanding that people from the ‘third world’ are just as intelligent as we are, and, increasingly, just as educated and skilled.  To that I would add the likelihood that they are more motivated to do a good job, and under fewer pressures to cut corners.   Let us remember that some of the best eye-care in the world is now available in India. Why not the nest airplane maintenance?   Cheers, Lawry   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salvador Sánchez Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky   Thanks, Harry, but please do not misunderstand me. If I can choose, I would NOT fly in a airline that outsources its maintenance and mechanical work. And if I have to, I will surely be scared to death while enough statistical evidence about safety comes to me. Furthermore, if I know that a mexican airline (I am mexican) outsources it´s maintenance in a foreing country, taking out jobs that can be done by mexicans, I will actively go against that practice. I have to say that I do not look for cheaper things or lower prices. I pay what I have to pay for products and services, thinking not only in my immediate needs and desires but in the future of my children, of the country and of the society as a whole. So I am very careful about the globalization discourse, about the benefits of the internalization of the economy. What's the real price of destroying a secular commercial structure, closely tied to the community structure, of loosing the skills that cost so much effort to get (mechanical skills, for example), even of changing the face of towns and neighborhoods (to say the less) to have the chance of buying cheap chinese (or mexican, or wherever) products in a Wal-Mart? One additional point: in Aeromexico and Mexicana, our two biggest airlines, you still can find a smiling crew and good service. And decent snaks and beverages. Their owners are about to sell it. Some big business is going to come and get it, maybe Iberia. Good bye to good service. Good bye to the smiling on board personnel. For a lot of people good bye to their jobs. For many of those who can keep their jobs, good bye to the pleasure of working as a pilot or as a flight attendant, or as a mechanic or as a clerk. And we will save two or three --or one hundred, it´s the same-- miserable dollars while somebody somewhere gets even richer at our expense. I will be very happy to pay what I have to pay, believe me. Salvador             Salvador,   Good point!   One has to wonder how many maintenance failures have occurred during the thousands of millions of miles these in-sourced, or outsourced planes have flown?   Maybe they are doing something right?   Harry ******************************* Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles Box 655  Tujunga  CA 91042 818 352-4141 *******************************     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salvador Sánchez Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:16 PM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; Christoph Reuss; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: [Futurework] Unfriendly workplace in the sky   How do you know? Is it public information? Salvador From: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM To: Christoph Reuss ; futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:01 PM   My colleague will not fly on any airline that outsources its maintenance and mechanical work. arthur

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