[I want to rewrite two short paragraphs at the end in order
to emphasize that we are not *necessarily* acting alone in
trying to being down a regime we believe must be destroyed.] 

Does this mean there can be no grounds for revolution? no
such thing as a bad king who *therefore* ought not to be
obeyed? Yes, that is what this [Hobbes's account] means.

But so what? All THAT means is that in such situations we
are ON OUR OWN, taking our own chances. Who knows, we may
succeed and be justified retrospectively. We just have to
think clearly - we cannot with justice call upon the
sovereign to support us while we try to destroy that
sovereign. We also have to take seriously what it is to be
outside of the law: in continual danger. But also free to do
whatever *works* (being careful not to set bad precedents). 

It is just as well this not be easy and open to the
frivolous. Plunging us into civil war is serious business.  
 
I must give Hobbes the last word...  

Thanks again, 

Stephen
 
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