>From the keyboard of sebb [14.01.08,12:21]:

> On 14/01/2008, John Douglas Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > From the keyboard of Yanick Champoux [12.01.08,18:50]:
> > > *dieresis* or *diæresis   *A diacritical mark (* ¨ *) optionally
> > used in
> > > English, oftentimes replaced by a hyphen. In English, the dieresis
> > is used on
> > > a second identical vowel to indicate a change in pronunciation of
> > that vowel
> > > or indicate it is pronounced in a separate syllable. It is sometimes
> > referred
> > > to as an « umlaut » when used with a single character or in a «
> > diphthong. »
> > > Examples: reëlecting, reëncoding, coöperation, coördination.
> >
> 
> Also naïf and naïve - non-identical vowels.
> 
> > I want to clarify (only because I myself was confused at first)
> > that an umlaut can be used IN a diphthong, but does not have
> > any function in MAKING a diphthong.  For example, the
> > German diphthong "au" becomes "äu" due to umlaut, (or "vowel
> > shifting").

Correct (unless I'm mistaken too ;-)

> In summary, umlaut and dieresis/diaeresis (also trema) are both
> diacritical marks.
> 
> Same symbol, but different meaning, where the meaning of the symbol
> depends on the context.
> 
> The rule seems to be: second vowel of a pair=dieresis, otherwise umlaut.
> 
> Any counter-examples?

yup, two examples:

German:
"geärgert" (been angry)
- here the second vowel is an umlaut

Quenya - the elven-tongue:
"ámen anta síra ilaurëa massamma" (give us today the daily our-bread)
- here the diaeresis is noted on the first vowel at ëa

;-)

0--gg-

> > Unless I am mistaken.
> 
> Same here...
> 
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> >
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