>>> On 1/14/2008 at 7:41 AM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lou
Degenaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking for help in understanding if Ganglia can be used to monitor a 
> cluster relative to our needs. 
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1. In our situation. each node has one or more application "instances" 
> running, where each application instance has an id and consists of a set 
> of daemons running on the node.  Thus app-1 may be comprised of one set of 
> instances of daemons a,b,c and app-2 may be comprised of another set of 
> instances of daemons a,b,c.  The question is, can Gangalia be used to 
> monitor instance specific information.  For example, say daemon "a" 
> produces metric "m".  We'd like to collect metric "m" from app-1 and from 
> app-2, where both apps are on the same node, and be able to tell which "m" 
> is which.
> 

Using Ganglia 3.1.0 (which has not been formally released yet) you can write 
either C interface or Python interface modules that can collect and report 
anything you want.  In your case, as long as the names of the metrics are 
different, gathering metrics for app-1 and app-2 can be easily done.  There is 
already a similar module in concept, that gathers metrics for each CPU that it 
discovers in the system.  In other words, if the system has 4 CPUs, then 4 
metrics are gathered and reported.  The difference here is that we are 
gathering multiple CPU data and you would be gathering data for multiple 
instances of daemon running on the system.  The bottomline is if your module 
can differentiate between multiple entities on the system and gather data for 
each, ganglia can report it.

> 2. What is the size limitation of Ganglia collected data - limited by what 
> can fit into a UDP packet?
> 

Depends on what you are talking about.  Yes the limit is the size of a UDP 
packet however 90% of the time the data being collected is just a numeric 
value.  You can gather a string but this is usually only done for "collect 
once" constant type metrics.

> 3. How does one programmatically get collected data?  Can our "collector" 
> application daemon easily listen for the reports or must polling be used?
> 

Normally this is done through some type of polling mechanism.  You can either 
poll the gmetad port and/or query the data directly from the RRD files.  
Examples of how to do this are in the web frontend PHP code.


> 4. Can the set of nodes reporting / collected be (programmatically) 
> changed on-the-fly?
> 

The set of nodes that are collecting data is determined by whether gmond is 
running on the machine or not.  If a new machine enters the grid and gmond is 
started on that box, the report for that machine magically shows up.  If a 
machine shutdown or gmond is stopped, the machine is reported as down.  Stopped 
machines can also be configured to be cleaned after a period of time.

> 5. Do all nodes have to have all information?  Can a hierarchy be 
> established so that only a small set of "authority" nodes be the keepers 
> of all information in order to minimize network traffic?
> 

No and Yes.  The default configuration is that all nodes hold information about 
every other node (multicast mode).  However the nodes can be configured to only 
report to a single node (unicast mode).  
  
Brad


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