Jim did bring up an issue I've been having difficulty with, and I'd love to hear from anyone who has an idea for me.

I haven't been able to get my cresties to take any worms of any kind. Because crickets are known to carry coccidia, I'd really rather not feed them. I wanted to do mealworms or silkworms, both of which I raise, but they just turn their noses up. Any ideas on how to make the worms more appealing? Thanks!!

Rick


----Original Message Follows---- From: Jim Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [gecko]crested gecko eating issues Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:03:15 -0600

I went to the local pet store last night and found T-Rex Crested Gecko food.
Since he's been eating baby food so long, I'm going to start slowly and mix
it in and gradually increase the T-Rex and decrease the baby food.

Thanks for all the information.

Regards,

Jim


-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Julie Bergman Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gecko]crested gecko eating issues


Hi Jim,


What your R. ciliatus is doing is not unusual. I would keep offering
crickets every couple of days and clean them out if they are not taken. Make
sure they are the right size, about 90% of the gecko's head. Mealworms are
more fatty than crickets. At this point I would not offer them much.

Julie B.

Jim Hammond wrote:


Julie,


I don't think Rachy is eating the crickets very well if at all. I change
them out to make sure they are well-fed, but he seems to be lapping up the
baby food instead. Does he need crickets or mealworms?

Thanks,

Jim


-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]On Behalf Of Julie Bergman Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [gecko]crested gecko eating issues



Hi Jim,

Jim Hammond wrote:


We're providing fresh mealworms and gut-loaded crickets for our Crested and


he seems to prefer baby food.

That is ok! I would provide that by mixing it with the Gargoyle food so he
gets enough protein. This is a baby Crested, yes?


I can account for all but two of the crickets


we've put in his house in the past 3 weeks.



We're supplementing the baby food with D3 and bee pollen. Is he getting what

he needs?



If you are going to supplement babyfood which is not not mixed with anything
else, you need a balanced supplement that includes at least Calcium,
phosphorus (Ca:phosphorus 2:1) , D3, and beta-carotene (pre-cursor for
Vitamin A). There are several products on the market that would fit this
bill - the T-Rex (ICB) Insect Cricket Balancer would work although is really
meant to "balance" crickets fed (ILF) Insect Loading Formula to acheive the
proper ratios. RepCal with D3 mixed 50/50 with Herptivite would work, also
the good Dr. Susan Donoghue (herp vet nutrition specialist and fellow gecko
lister) could provide you something at http://www.herpnutrition.com
<http://www.herpnutrition.com> .  So no, just D3 and bee pollen will not be
adequate and is harmful because of the metabolic imbalance.

If you use the Gargoyle Gecko food mixed with babyfood there is no need to
supplement.

Let us know if you have any more questions!

Julie B.






Thanks,




Jim



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Hi Dana,



If he is eating crickets then I don't think there is any cause for worry

here. Your frequency of feeding this guy babyfood is probably too much from

what I am seeing here. Save it for every third day or so, and DO NOT hand

feed (creating a bad habit that may be hard to break). Be sure to use the

Gargoyle and not the Crested T-Rex food at this point. He wants protein more

than babyfood at this point in his growth and the Gargoyle food is just what

he needs as far as that goes.



Julie Bergman

www.geckoranch.com <http://www.geckoranch.com>

GGA lifetime member



Dana wrote:





Hi Everyone -



I wrote to this listserv last week about my newly acquired juvenile

crested that wasn't eating his baby food (for reference, he is about

4.5-5.0" and does seem to be growing). Thanks for the responses -

they were helpful.



Unfortunately, he still won't eat the baby food on his own. He will

eat a little bit at a time when I hand feed it to him - he eats so

little each time that some days I have fed him small amounts twice a

day. When I leave the food in his home he won't eat it by himself. I

am feeding him the same flavor baby food mixed with the T-rex crested

gecko diet just as they had been feeding him at the store where I

bought him. I have tried different flavors of food, food without any

supplements, food with Rep-Cal supplements (very light) instead of the

t-Rex - the only thing that I haven't tried, which I will do tomorrow

is puree some fruit myself and offer that to him - any other

suggestiong that I haven't tried? He has been eating crickets - he

really likes them, but how concerned, at this point, should I be that

he is not eating the baby food on his own (he's had plenty of time to

acclimate to his new home as it has been 2 weeks since I brought him

home)?



- Thanks,

Dana



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