On Dec 23, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Hmmm...But the deal is if the PMC wants a change to its charter it
needs to VOTE on it and formally adopt it. right? AND if the PMC does
not have one then it needs to adhere to the board resolution. right?
You know where i am going with this, if you read between the lines...
There's lots of places to go with this :) I guess we need to clarify
if we are talking about the charter as from the baord "Thou shalt do
webservices" which I do think is up to the board to change (in
conjunction with the PMC) or the project bylaws/guidlines setup
entirely by the PMC "We shalt to webservices in this manner...."
I believe that many projects do not conform precisely to their
project charter but still work in healthy and collaborative ways...
geir
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On 12/23/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Every TLP has an explicit charter when created by the board in the
resolution that creates them. How they interpret that and change
with the shifting sands of technology style is up to them....
geir
On Dec 23, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Sounds good to me (hopefully all our TLP's will have charters
soon!!).
-- dims
On 12/23/05, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Sam,
it's not just a question of content and significance. It's also a
question of fitting with existing projects and check to make sure
that
the project still adheres to the the charter of the PMC. These are
better checked by outsiders ("Incubator PMC"), since the insiders
("WS
PMC") may be biased.
I don't believe that it is the incubator's job to watch to make
sure
that existing projects stay to their charters - that's the job of
the board.
Another thing i can think of is, for example, when HTTPComponents
(by
internal people) was being set up there was resistance from tomcat
folks. But the scope got resolved by active participation by folks
from tomcat and jakarta pmcs. IMHO, this will not happen if a PMC
already voted to accept something even before Incubator PMC knows
about it (not to mention the other PMC's who may significant
input).
Again, I don't believe that it is the incubator's job to enforce
scope.
Furthermore, acceptance by the incubator is the start of a
process,
not the end of it. There should be adequate opportunity for
people to
provide input during the course of incubation.
- Sam Ruby
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