On 1/31/2012 3:28 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > Having said that, I should note that the context of Incubator is > significantly different than a normal PMC. If incubator wants to structure > itself more like a board and less like a project, I really don't have > much to say against that. Note that it should effect all of the decision > guidelines that give veto power, not just personnel decisions.
That touched on something. The incubator is a meta-committee. It is entrusted with and given more latitude to operate subprojects even as the board has attempted to squash or at least minimize the practice at other projects. Probably every issue that happened at Jakarta (etc) all could and probably will happen here at some point. Is there latitude to assign PPMC's full and proper subcommittee status, such that their actions are binding? Perhaps this is something that happens later in the project, following the initial phase of incubation. Perhaps the PPMC is charged with bootstrapping itself into a subcommittee consisting of those who will serve at the TLP committee; modulo early signers-on who had not made any actual contribution during incubation. Perhaps the mentors become pivotal in identifying those PPMC participants who made contributions and proposing the subcommittee to the IPMC? So you have an almost-TLP, still operating under the oversight of the incubator, until the final incubation requirements are met and the subcommittee is passed on verbatim to the board as a TLP. This would seem to solve certain desires for more PPMC autonomy and self-governance. Back to Roy's point, the incubator PMC produces almost no code. It is not a TLP in any sense of the word we know, although that seems to be lost or ignored in several discussions about incubator operation. But a subcommittee would have the onus of operating as a familiar code-producing TLP PMC in every respect. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org