Does "...based on Apache Hadoop" require a clear dependency notation as to which versions of Apache component releases are part of the commercial distribution?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: > > Bill, > > So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" ?? I > > thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was misleading... > > Things in law are rarely binary except at the edges or after an actual > court ruling. > > Releasing a "Niclas George platform powered by Apache Hadoop" conforms > with our branding requirements, so would likely be OK. The further > you go away from that, the less clear that what you are doing would be > OK. > > Hadoop would be a especially problematic case for you, as "Apache > Hadoop, Hadoop, Apache, the Apache feather logo, and the Apache Hadoop > project logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of the > Apache Software Foundation in the United States and other countries. " > -- https://hadoop.apache.org/ > > http is a more generic term, so including variants of it in your name > (including httpd) would be less problematic than incorporating a name > like Hadoop. > > - Sam Ruby > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:30 PM, William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net> > > wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi! > >> > > >> > while answering a question on release policies and ALv2 > >> > I've suddenly realized that I really don't know what is the > >> > legal basis for enforcing release policies we've got > >> > documented over here: > >> > http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html > >> > > >> > For example, what would be the legal basis for stopping > >> > a 3d party from releasing a snapshot of ASF's project > >> > source tree and claim it to be a release X.Y.Z of said > >> > project? > >> > > >> > >> Nothing other than the Trademarks. > >> > >> If someone wants to call httpd trunk 3.0.1-GA, they cannot do this as > >> "Apache httpd 3.0.1-GA" or "Apache HTTP Server 3.0.1-GA". > >> > >> They can certainly release trunk under the AL license and call it > "Kindred > >> Http Server 3.0.1-GA, based on Apache HTTP Server". That is a statement > of > >> fact and not an abuse of the mark, IMHO. (If it was not actually based > on > >> Apache HTTP Server, then that would similarly be a Trademark > infringement > >> as it is a false use of the mark.) > >> > >> There are no less than two marks, one is the name of the foundation > itself > >> in conjunction with Open Source Software, and the other is the specific > >> project name. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > > http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Greg Chase Director of Big Data Communities http://www.pivotal.io/big-data Pivotal Software http://www.pivotal.io/ 650-215-0477 @GregChase Blog: http://geekmarketing.biz/
