On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:33 AM Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:59 AM Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 9:38 AM Lars Francke <lars.fran...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is very much not thought through to the end. One question raised
> > for
> > > > example is whether projects would even want to become a TLP.
> > > > The mission states: "We do this by providing services and support for
> > > many
> > > > like-minded software project communities consisting of individuals
> who
> > > > choose to participate in ASF activities."
> > > > I don't see anything in there requiring anyone to "join" (I remember
> > the
> > > > recent discussions about that). If you sign up to Github you're not
> all
> > > of
> > > > a sudden a "Github project" but still benefit from its services.
> > > >
> > > > We could do something similar.
> > >
> > > Do I understand correctly that you're proposing a sort of "indefinite
> > > incubation" for projects which want to benefit from our infra but don't
> > > want to follow one or more of the principles we have deemed important
> to
> > > producing open source software?
> > >
> > ...
> > I don't see Lars suggesting allowing such projects. There would still be
> a
> > Proposal, and retirement is still an option.
>
>
> Actually, I think that he quite literally did suggest what he called
> github++ where projects would be free to make releases based on whatever
> rules that they chose and to not all themselves apache projects for as long
> as they like.
>
> I am with Myrle. That isn't what we want. There has to be some ooomph
> toward becoming an Apache project.
>

I totally agree. Just saying I didn't read Lars that way.  *shrug*

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