Because the mentors are still in the PMC team, as long as the PMC
members think of the community's best interest, I don't believe
NetEase can take control of the project.
Besides the PPMC, we also need to look at the committers; they can
become PMC members a few months later.


Willem Jiang

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 12:45 PM Calvin Kirs <k...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I looked at some PPMCs and it seems that some are no longer active.
> If the active PPMC is basically from NetEase, then I worry that the
> continued development of the project still depends on NetEase's
> decision, we have some such examples.
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 10:16 AM Kent Yao <y...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Calvin,
> >
> > We add three new PPMCs during incubation, and they are all not NetEase-ers.
> > And we also add eight other committers who are still actively contributing 
> > to
> > code and community, and there are only one of them from NetEase. The current
> > PPMC still seeks opportunities to invite them and other active contributors
> > and expand itself based on community-level contributions.
> >
> > > could you list the active PPMC ratio in detail?
> >
> > I'm not sure whether it is good to do detail a ratio number by organization.
> > The current Kyuubi PPMC develops the community based on individual
> > contributions. I will update the discussion if you think this is good and
> > necessary.
> >
> > Bests,
> > Kent
> >
> >
> > On 2022/11/11 01:06:30 Calvin Kirs wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I noticed that the ratio of PPMC from NetEase to PPMC from other
> > > companies has reached 1:1,
> > > I'm a little worried, could you list the active PPMC ratio in detail?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 11:20 PM li gang <lgcar...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 (non-binding)
> > > > BTW,I checked by the [1],here is an issue that has not provided a  wiki
> > > > link,I think it's better to provide the wiki link.
> > > > [1]https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/kyuubi
> > > >
> > > > Kent Yao <y...@apache.org> 于2022年11月7日周一 17:40写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello, Incubator community and IMPC-ers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Kyuubi has been an incubating project since 2021-06-21 after the
> > > > > proposal[1] was accepted. During the incubation, the Kyuubi project
> > > > > and community developed stably and continuously following the Apache
> > > > > Way. By sorting out and self-checking the Kyuubi maturity model[2],
> > > > > we believe that the Kyuubi project is ready for graduating as a Top
> > > > > Level Project. Meanwhile, corresponding threads for both 
> > > > > discussions[3]
> > > > > and vote[4][5] have been finished in the kyuubi@dev mailing list with
> > > > > positive results. Hereby, we would like to collect feedback from the
> > > > > incubator community through this discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a brief overview of the progress of the Apache 
> > > > > Kyuubi(incubating)
> > > > > project and community since entering the incubator:
> > > > >
> > > > > ** Community **
> > > > >
> > > > > - 3 new PPMC members were added, bringing the total number to 12.
> > > > >   The community strives to be meritocratic and diverse, the current
> > > > >   PPMC(mentors excluded) consists of individuals from different
> > > > >   organizations, China Mobile(1), Ctrip(1), eBay(1), NetEase(4), and 
> > > > > T3(1).
> > > > > - 8 new committers were added, bringing the total number to 17.
> > > > >  The newly added committers(PPMC excluded) are also from
> > > > >   different organizations, AsiaInfo(1), Bilibili(1), Dingxiangyuan(1),
> > > > > iQiYi(1),
> > > > >   and NetEase(1).
> > > > > - 60+ new contributors participate in the community. The number of
> > > > > contributors are now 98 and still growing.
> > > > > - The dev@kyuubi mailing list currently has 75 subscribers, and all 
> > > > > major
> > > > > project discussions happen there. The GitHub discussions page is also 
> > > > > being
> > > > > actively used for user questions, feature requests, story sharing, 
> > > > > etc.
> > > > > - Held 3 meetups by our community, and participated in 20+ events, 
> > > > > such as
> > > > > ApacheCon, to promote the Kyuubi project.
> > > > > - All PPMC members are willing to join the Kyuubi PMC membership after
> > > > >  graduation[6][7].
> > > > > - Kent Yao(y...@apache.org) was voted as Vice President[8].
> > > > >
> > > > > ** Project **
> > > > >
> > > > > - 8 releases[9] by 8 different release managers.
> > > > > - 1400+ pull requests merged[10], and 900+ issues resolved[11].
> > > > > - Kyuubi website[12] is now compliant with the Apache Project Website
> > > > > requirements[13].
> > > > > - Project maturity model is detailed in[2].
> > > > >
> > > > > ** Licensing and Branding Issues **
> > > > >
> > > > > - We have applied the podling name search[14] and it has been reviewed
> > > > > and approved.
> > > > > - IP Clearance: 2021-06-21
> > > > > - Software Grant Received on: 2021-07-04
> > > > > - Confirmation of ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code on: 2021-06-21
> > > > > - Confirmation of Binary Distribution Licensing: 2021-09-14
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > BEGINNING OF DRAFT RESOLUTION
> > > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Establish the Apache Kyuubi Project
> > > > >
> > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests 
> > > > > of
> > > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to 
> > > > > establish
> > > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and 
> > > > > maintenance
> > > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > > > > related to a distributed and multi-tenant gateway to provide 
> > > > > serverless
> > > > > SQL on data warehouses and lakehouses.
> > > > >
> > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kyuubi Project", be and hereby is
> > > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Kyuubi Project be and hereby is responsible
> > > > > for the creation and maintenance of software related to a distributed
> > > > > and multi-tenant gateway to provide serverless SQL on data warehouses
> > > > > and lakehouses.; and be it further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Kyuubi" be and
> > > > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > > > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Kyuubi
> > > > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > > > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Kyuubi
> > > > > Project; and be it further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > > > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Kyuubi 
> > > > > Project:
> > > > >
> > > > > * Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org>
> > > > > * Cheng Pan <cheng...@apache.org>
> > > > > * Dongdong Hong <hon...@apache.org>
> > > > > * Duo Zhang <zhang...@apache.org>
> > > > > * Fei Wang <feiw...@apache.org>
> > > > > * Hongxiang Jiang <jhx1...@apache.org>
> > > > > * Jeff Zhang <zjf...@apache.org>
> > > > > * Kent Yao <y...@apache.org>
> > > > > * Shaoyun Chen <c...@apache.org>
> > > > > * Vino Yang <vinoy...@apache.org>
> > > > > * Willem Ning Jiang <ningji...@apache.org>
> > > > > * XiDuo You <ulysses...@apache.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Kent Yao be appointed to
> > > > > the office of Vice President, Apache Kyuubi, to serve in accordance 
> > > > > with
> > > > > and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws 
> > > > > of
> > > > > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> > > > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Kyuubi Project be and hereby is tasked with
> > > > > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Kyuubi
> > > > > podling; and be it further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > > > > Kyuubi podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > > > > discharged.
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------------
> > > > > END OF DRAFT RESOLUTION
> > > > > ------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Please refer to the Kyuubi project incubation status[15] for more
> > > > > information.
> > > > > This discussion will be open for at least 72 hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Kent Yao
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] 
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/KyuubiProposal
> > > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-kyuubi/blob/master/MATURITY.md
> > > > > [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/h7bd68r91foj9d4gnc33f2f321kbbc4g
> > > > > [4] https://lists.apache.org/thread/4pfyp9wcj881mr6swcc6x1bfzn632vwd
> > > > > [5] https://lists.apache.org/thread/4vgk21bxlo9cc1340oyh6ptwxh24y3m7
> > > > > [6] https://lists.apache.org/thread/00j79b4kq4jzdc7sv7syhosm1m5245rl
> > > > > [7] https://lists.apache.org/thread/n52fstybz9orovkrkfjl22o3yc266q65
> > > > > [8] https://lists.apache.org/thread/hqtvfvoyvzj2kssc5jhq11q8pjvorxfq
> > > > > [9] https://kyuubi.apache.org/releases.html
> > > > > [10]
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kyuubi/pulls?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed+closed%3A%3E=2021-06-21
> > > > > [11]
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kyuubi/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed+closed%3A%3E2021-06-21
> > > > > [12] https://kyuubi.apache.org/
> > > > > [13] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/kyuubi
> > > > > [14] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-196
> > > > > [15] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/kyuubi.html
> > > > >
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> > > > Best Regards
> > > >
> > > > DolphinScheduler PMC
> > > > Gang Li 李岗
> > > >
> > > > lgcar...@apache.org
> > >
> > >
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