Ted,
I don't want to have an argument, and I'm not criticising Philipp for
offering, nor for the effort he obviously put in.
I do have some reservations with this particular page, which I'm not going
to raise again, if anyones interested they've already read them.

I would like to take you up on a couple of points you make though,

> The overview has been donated to the ASF, and is under Jakarta rules
> now.

Does this mean that anything "donated" is accepted on behalf of the project,
by anyone with karma, without discussion and can therefore only be openly
opposed once it has already been accepted?

> If anyone wants to make it more objective, have at it. If not,
> leave it alone and it will wither away.

What if (and I don't, I'm just asking) modification and inaction are not
enough for me, I want to veto it?
I don't have enough Karma for Jakarta-site2, but if I did would I be within
my rights to arbitrarily remove it? I think, and hope, not.
Therefore it seems that it is a bigger hurdle for a donation of this kind to
be vetoed than accepted.

> Regardless of the content, it's important to recognize that the initial
> author Did The Right Thing. The overview was prepared in XML and
> required no afterwork to commit. This makes him a Contributor in my
> book. If more of our users went to the trouble this person went to, we'd
> have more and better documentation throughout Jakarta.

You're absolutely right, I agree utterly with that statement, and I hope my
miserable grumping doesn't put him off.


> Apache stands for patching ...

But we don't want to have to patch any old thing that comes swinging by, do
we?

Surely there could be a slightly better, and simple, way of accepting
website proposals that makes it obvious that they are undergoing peer
review?

And in the interests of providing construtive criticism I'll propose --
A "proposals" section of the site, into which anyone with karma can commit
any submissions and from which documents can be promoted by lazy concensus
of all jakarta commiters. Its stylesheet will include a footer explaining
the status of proposal documents(if thats possible). -- for instance?

d.


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