--- Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[SNIP]
> I didn't know whether this had been done before in
> Commons - but seems
> that it has for the Commons CSV component back in
> December 2005:
> 
>
http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/jakarta-commons-csv.html
> 

Actually I knew about this but thought I remembered
someone (Henri?) saying later that having gotten the
code in this way might not have been the best choice
in retrospect.  Does that ring any bells with anyone?

-Matt

> Niall
> 
> > > The above can be considered a test of my grasp
> of this
> > > policy; as such confirmation, contradiction, or
> > > clarification is welcome.
> >
> > The way Jakarta Commons operates is that any ASF
> commiter (such as
> > yourself) can start a new Commons component in the
> Sandbox. In the
> > case of seeding that component with an external
> code base such as
> > Morph - this short form ensures that all the usual
> Incubator checks
> > (e.g. IP, CLA's etc) are done so that there are no
> issues with
> > bringing the code into the ASF.
> >
> > Once the incubator checks are done and the code is
> in the Commons
> > Sandbox, you still then need to meet meet the
> usual criteria to exit
> > the Sandbox and become a proper Commons component.
> I think the
> > downside of going this route will be the way it
> differs for Matt
> > Sgarlata - since hes not an ASF commiter. In the
> "full incubator"
> > route he would enter the incubator with the code.
> This way he would
> > need to be voted in in the usual way - so theres
> likely to be some
> > time where he can only work on his code by
> submitting patches - which
> > may not be acceptable to him as the original
> author.
> >
> > > With all that said, this, again, does sound like
> a
> > > possibly more promising line of investigation
> than
> > > full-on incubation.  But what's next?  :o
> >
> > I'm not expert in these things, but perhaps the
> following:
> >
> > - check if Matt Sgarlata would be happy with this
> route
> > - raise it on the Incubator list outlining what
> you want to do and see
> > if they think it acceptable
> > - see if there is support/objections to this in
> Commons
> >
> > Niall
> >
> > > br,
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Niall
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/beanutils/
> > > > [2] http://www.opensymphony.com/ognl/
> > > > [3] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/jexl/
> > > > [4] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/el/
> > > > [5]
> > > >
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/convert/
> > > >
> > > > > br,
> > > > > Matt
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Niall
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Matt
> >
> 
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