On Sunday 14 November 2010 15:36:43 Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2010-11-14, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Before you go to great pains to get this working, you do know that hal > >> is checking out right? > > Yes, I knew that. Maybe I'll just live without the touchpad until HAL > goes away for good. > > My question is why did the Gentoo maintainers decide to use HAL > instead of xorg.conf?
Because that's what upstream decided to do. You can still use your xorg.conf though - just remove any /etc/hal/fdi/policy/* files that you have created. > >> Even the person who wrote it realized the mess it was and it is dying > >> pretty soon. I think it is policykit or polkit or something to that > >> effect. If you want to start using that instead, it may save you > >> some headaches later on when it is no longer a option. > > > > As Dale suggests don't waste your time on hal and its fdi files. > > xorg 1.8.x will be going stable soon and that does away with hal > > configuration. I recommend that you unmask it and see if you can > > control your touchpad easier using an xorg.conf and evdev. However, > > the synaptics driver is there for a reason ... > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide > > .xml > > > > BTW, if you want to remain with xorg 1.7.x then I recommend you try the > > following: > > > > 1. Add synaptics to your INPUT_DEVICES in /etc/make.conf - most often > > > > than not it will just work™ and no further adjustment of > > sensitivity is necessary. > > I did that, but the synaptics driver doesn't get used by default. Once > you've installed it, how do you get the server to use it? I think I > should abandon HAL and switch to xorg.conf. It's so much easier to > use. You may need to remerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics. Then restart xorg and check what happens with the touchpad in your Xorg.0.log. > > 2. Then run lshal to see if your touchpad is recognised. In my > > > > laptop (I use hal) it shows this: > >================================================== > > > > udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_d132' > > > > info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer' (string) > > info.product = 'Core Processor DMI' (string) > > info.category = 'input' (string) > > info.parent = > > '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port' > > > > (string) > > > > info.product = 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' (string) > > info.subsystem = 'input' (string) > > info.udi = > > > > '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_in > > put' (string) > > > > input.device = '/dev/input/event6' (string) > > input.originating_device = > > '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port' (string) > > input.product = 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' (string) > > input.x11_driver = 'synaptics' (string) > > input.x11_options.ClickButton1 = '1' (string) > > input.x11_options.HorizEdgeScroll = 'true' (string) > > input.x11_options.MaxTapMove = '2000' (string) > > input.x11_options.TapButton1 = '1' (string) > > input.x11_options.VertEdgeScroll = 'true' (string) > > linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event6' (string) > > linux.hotplug_type = 2 (0x2) (int) > > linux.subsystem = 'input' (string) > > linux.sysfs_path = > > '/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input6/event6' > > > > (string) > > > >================================================== > > > > In the info section above it tells me that touchpad is recognised. > > Looking into > > /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/11-x11-synaptics.fdi I see that > > by installing the synaptics driver a hal configuration file was > > created. > > > > Copy this to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi (you can call > > it something different if you wish) and add an option line to adjust > > > > sensitivity: > ><merge key="input.x11_options.PressureMotionMinZ" > >type="integer">25</merge> > > > > Play with different integer values to see what works and also look at > > the synaptics man page for different options, in case > > PressureMotionMin is not what you need. Each time you make a change > > you should restart hal or the xserver to see the result. > > > > 3. Without synaptics a lot depends on what the evdev or mouse drivers > > > > can do - they may not have pressure related options to play with. > > Again I would start with their man pages and follow the example > > above, as long as lshal shows which driver has captured the > > touchpad events. > > So you're saying that without the synaptics driver there is no > sensitivity adjustment? Probably not - I don't really know. On my hardware I can't do much without the x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics driver. I can't recall if without it I was able to get some basic functionality, i.e. moving the cursor around, but was not getting multiple finger gestures, tapping/clicking, and edge scrolling for sure. YMMV. man synaptics shows you all the different options and functionality offered by this driver. To set it up have a look at this: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Synaptics_Touchpad/Xorg_7.3 Finally, if xorg-server-1.8 is around the corner to be stabilised I suggest that you unmask it and use the xorg.conf file that we all know and love. :-) -- Regards, Mick
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