On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 29/06/2014 23:57, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
>>>> My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd
>>>> system. The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd.
>>>>
>>>> The 3 june news asserts "all systemd users are recommended to stay with
>>>> sys-power/upower".
>>>>
>>>> However update world wants to uninstall upower and install
>>>> upower-pm-utils.
>>>>
>>>> Adding sys-power/upower-pm-utils to /etc/package.mask, "fixed" the
>>>> problem, but I wonder if I chose an appropriate fix. I was a little
>>>> surprised that a stable system would need an entry in package.mask.
>>>>
>>>> Any advice would be appreciated,
>>>> allan
>>>>
>>>> PS I realize that the news item concerned hibernate/suspend so is not
>>>> relevant, but the same issue uninstall/install occurs on my laptop.
>>>> Those systems have a less simple "goingstable" setup and are more
>>>> important to me so I prefer to first change the fully stable desktop.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you still dealing with this same output you posted about on the 26th?
>>>
>>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>>
>>> [ebuild U ] x11-wm/sawfish-1.9.1-r2 [1.9.1-r1] USE="emacs%* nls
>>> -xinerama" 2,556 kB
>>> [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0 USE="bluetooth cdr classic
>>> cups extras -accessibility"
>>> [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 USE="bluetooth i18n
>>> networkmanager (-openrc-force)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7"
>>> [nomerge ] sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
>>> USE="introspection -ios"
>>> [blocks b ] sys-power/upower ("sys-power/upower" is blocking
>>> sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
>>> [uninstall ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3 USE="introspection -doc
>>> -ios"
>>> [ebuild N ] sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
>>> USE="introspection -ios" 0 kB
>>>
>>> That is gnome-shell pulling in upower || upower-pm-utils and for some
>>> reason it chose the one you do not want.
>>>
>>> Using package.mask is valid (it's a documented tool and not only for
>>> ~arch - all it means is that you do not want the listed packages and
>>> there could be many reasons for that) but it does seem a bit heavy-handed.
>>>
>>> Normally, manually installing upower should be enough to satisfy the dep
>>> and keep upower-pm-utils off your machine, but bugs are possible I suppose.
>>>
>>> Is there any bugs on b.g.o. about this?
>>> Run emerge with -t and post the relevant section, let's see why the
>>> wrong package is being pulled in. Also the output of
>>>
>>> equery depends upower
>>> equery depends upower-pm-utils
>>
>> Yes it is the same general issue. But I moved from my "goingstable"
>> laptop to my fully stable desktop, hoping it would be clearer.
>> I did run the emerge world with -t on the desktop. I am now temporarily
>> removing the package.mask entry and running it again. The output is
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>> [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0 USE="bluetooth cdr classic
>> cups extras -accessibility"
>> [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 USE="bluetooth i18n
>> networkmanager (-openrc-force)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7"
>> [nomerge ] sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2 USE="introspection
>> -ios"
>> [blocks b ] sys-power/upower ("sys-power/upower" is blocking
>> sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
>> [uninstall ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3 USE="introspection -doc
>> -ios"
>> [ebuild N ] sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2 USE="introspection
>> -ios" 0 kB
>> Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 uninstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
>> Conflict: 1 block
>>
>> I did not do this upgrade and with my package.mask in place, update
>> world says "nothing to merge".
>>
>> The equery's give
>>
>> allan ~ # equery depends upower
>> * These packages depend on upower:
>> app-misc/tracker-0.16.4 (laptop ? <sys-power/upower-0.99)
>> gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.10.3 (<sys-power/upower-0.99)
>> gnome-base/gnome-session-3.10.1 (<sys-power/upower-0.99)
>> gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.10.2 (<sys-power/upower-0.99)
>> gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 (<sys-power/upower-0.99[introspection])
>> gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.10.1 (<sys-power/upower-0.99)
>> net-im/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1 (upower ? >=sys-power/upower-0.9.11)
>> (upower ? <sys-power/upower-0.99)
>> net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (sys-power/upower)
>> x11-wm/mutter-3.10.4 (<sys-power/upower-0.99)
>> allan ~ # equery depends upower-pm-utils
>> * These packages depend on upower-pm-utils:
>> app-misc/tracker-0.16.4 (laptop ? sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
>> gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.10.3 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
>> gnome-base/gnome-session-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
>> gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.10.2 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
>> gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils[introspection])
>> gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
>> net-im/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
>> net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
>> x11-wm/mutter-3.10.4 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
>> allan ~ #
>>
>> When I started this project there were no related bugs in b.g.o.
>> I will investigate them
>>
>> 513842 - talks about a upower mask from the openrc perspective
>> 513700 - is about stabilizing upower-0.99.0-r1
>> 512252 - again a problem for openrc users
>> 515228 - talks about upower versions and differences with different systems.
>>
>> One phrase from the last bug is "Probably we need to document this
>> better, for example in the wiki."
>>
>> So perhaps the package.mask is not terrible.
>> Would you advise I put the package.mask in a "goingstable" laptop and
>> try an update world? I do have two laptops whose configurations are
>> "close", one is my main system. I would first update world on the other
>> one.
>
>
>
> Hi Allen,
>
> It's late and perhaps I'm not think too clearly, but I think I see the
> problem:
>
> Almost everything listed in equery depends upower is looking for this:
>
> <sys-power/upower-0.99
>
> But look at this:
>
> $ eix -e upower
> * sys-power/upower
> Available versions: [M]0.9.23-r3 0.99.0-r1(0/2) {doc
> +introspection ios KERNEL="FreeBSD linux"}
> Homepage: http://upower.freedesktop.org/
> Description: D-Bus abstraction for enumerating power
> devices and querying history and statistics
>
>
> There is no stable version of upower you can use (0.9.23-r3 is masked in
> the profile) so only upower-pm-utils satisfies the dep. However, the
> mask is reversed in the systemd profile.
>
> Are you using the systemd profile? If not, set it and do a pretend
> emerge run. I feel this will sort out your problem.
>
>
> The situation with upower does feel clunky to my mind; profiles are
> supposed to be for the most part entirely optional and serve as a
> convenience. Requiring a specific profile to get stuff to work doesn't
> feel right on a user level even though the maths logic driving it is correct
I am using the .../gnome/systemd profile on all systems (see below).
Also eix shows sys-power-0.9.23 as stable and portage is not complaining
that I have it installed once I mask syspower-pm-utils, which for some
reason, portage likes better
I think I will mask syspower-pm-utils on my backup laptop (goingstable,
gnome/systemd) and let the update word do its thing.
Thanks again,
allan
allan ~ # eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
[1] default/linux/amd64/13.0
[2] default/linux/amd64/13.0/selinux
[3] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop
[4] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome
[5] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome/systemd *
[6] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde
[7] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde/systemd
[8] default/linux/amd64/13.0/developer
[9] default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib
[10] default/linux/amd64/13.0/x32
[11] hardened/linux/amd64
[12] hardened/linux/amd64/selinux
[13] hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib
[14] hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib/selinux
[15] hardened/linux/amd64/x32
[16] hardened/linux/uclibc/amd64
[17] hardened/linux/musl/amd64
allan ~ # eix -e upower
[U] sys-power/upower
Available versions: 0.9.23-r3 0.99.0-r1(0/2) {doc +introspection ios
KERNEL="FreeBSD linux"}
Installed versions: 0.9.23-r3(09:00:10 PM 06/25/2014)(introspection -doc
-ios KERNEL="linux -FreeBSD")
Homepage: http://upower.freedesktop.org/
Description: D-Bus abstraction for enumerating power devices and
querying history and statistics
allan ~ #
