On Monday 02 Jan 2017 16:22:34 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 2 January 2017 11:42:44 GMT Mick wrote: > > On Monday 02 Jan 2017 10:51:23 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Hello lists, > > > > > > (I've sent this to both gentoo-user and kdepim-users as being relevant > > > in > > > both lists - I'm using kde-apps/kmail-16.12.0-r1 on Gentoo.) > > > > > > Well, I think I can finally emerge from a long battle to get KMail > > > working. It's been uphill all the way - except for the frequent slips > > > backwards to start abain. (I still don't have spell checking, as you > > > see.) > > > > > > The main problem has been to recover archived e-mails, which sounds > > > simple enough as I always keep a week of daily archives on a different > > > partition, but it wasn't. The routine would go like this: > > > > > > 1. Set up KMail the way I like it, but on an empty message set. > > > Save the > > > arrangement for use next time. > > > 2. Import the latest archive to a temporary folder. > > > 3. Mark all the imported messages as read and move each folder into > > > position under Local Folders. Delete the temporary folder. > > > 4. Restore all the filters. > > > 5. Cross fingers and fetch new mail (POP as my ISP doesn't offer > > > IMAP). > > > 6. KMail goes haywire. It re-creates the temporary folder and > > > proceeds > > > to > > > fill it with duplicates of all the existing messages. All those > > > duplicates prevent me from making a new archive until I clear them all > > > out, painstakingly (yes, I did actually check several thousand e-mails > > > for uniqueness). > > > 7. Sigh. Delete the temporary folder again and have another go. > > > Same > > > result. 8. Give up and start again. > > > > > > Latterly, it changed slightly and sent all those duplicates to the > > > sent-mail folder instead of creating a new folder for them. I think > > > this coincided with me using a different archive file from the previous > > > day. > > > > > > In the end I used Ark to extract the sent-mail directory from the > > > archive > > > and save it as a simple directory structure under > > > "./.Local Folders.directory", then delete what I'd extracted from the > > > archive. Then the import went smoothly in two stages: sent-mail, and > > > everything else. > > > > > > I lost count of the times I rebooted durning the whole struggle, but it > > > may well have reached 100. To omit a reboot was to risk the next step > > > going wrong. That's compounded by having to start KMail twice each > > > time, because the first time, it shows a progress bar stuck at 0% with > > > no indication of what is supposed to be in progress. This may be > > > connected with the segmentation faults I still see sometimes on > > > shutdown; it's hard to be sure. > > > > > > Let's hope for some stability now. I still feel as though I'm walking on > > > eggshells. > > > > Instead of rebooting it should be easier to first quit kmail and then run: > > > > akonadictl stop > > akonadictl start > > akonadictl fsck > > akonadictl vacuum > > > > On each of the above commands you should wait for a few > > seconds/minutes/hours, depending on the size of the database and the > > amount being downloaded/indexed from the mail server. Once the complete > > collection of messages, address book, calendar, etc. have been downloaded > > AND indexed your problems of being stuck at 0% ought to go away, or > > hopefully reduced significantly. > > I've just run that set of four commands, and guess what? I now have my first > batch of duplicate messages. I also have a feeling that some new messages > from this list have disappeared. > > I don't trust akonadictl at the moment. > > > PS. Still on stable Kmail I occasionally get a 0% indication, but with > > patience it goes away. This typically happens for two reasons. First the > > connection to gmail or other mail servers is problematic. This > > eventually gives an indication of connection being lost and sometimes the > > mailbox goes offline (I am using IMAP). Second reason is that there are > > no new messages in the Inbox or any other folder and therefore the > > filters are not being run and contents not being indexed. When a new > > message arrives the 0% progresses to 100% and completes almost > > immediately. > > Thanks, but that doesn't explain why stopping KMail and immediately > restarting it clears the zero progress on an unknown task. Every time, too.
I occasionally get the odd duplicate message appearing in the sent mail folder. However, this only lasts for a little while. In due course, re- indexing gets rid of duplicates. I have not used Kmail2 with POP3 since its very early days and back then it would not work at all for me (losing messages, creating duplicates and triplicates and quadruplicates and ...) -- Regards, Mick
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