On Thursday 16 March 2017 18:23:53 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 16/03/2017 10:38, Mick wrote:
> > I updated one box with the latest stable KDE and discovered that
> > Konqueror/Dolphin will no longer connect to ftp or sftp servers.
> > 
> > depclean showed up and uninstalled a lot of packages, which I let it do
> > thinking they are no longer needed in the latest version of KDE, probably
> > because their functionality was merged with other packages:
> > 
> > 1489518204:  *** emerge --verbose --quiet-build=n --ask --depclean
> > 1489518204:  >>> depclean
> > 1489518253: === Unmerging... (media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.3)
> > 1489518278:  >>> unmerge success: media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.3
> > 1489518278: === Unmerging... (media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.3)
> > 1489518290:  >>> unmerge success: media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.3
> > 1489518290: === Unmerging... (virtual/krb5-0-r1)
> > 1489518294:  >>> unmerge success: virtual/krb5-0-r1
> > 1489518294: === Unmerging... (net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.11-r200)
> > 1489518301:  >>> unmerge success: net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.11-r200
> > 1489518301: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebase-runtime-meta-16.04.3)
> > 1489518306:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebase-runtime-meta-16.04.3
> > 1489518306: === Unmerging... (media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.4)
> > 1489518319:  >>> unmerge success: media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.4
> > 1489518319: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/renamedlg-plugins-16.04.3)
> > 1489518326:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/renamedlg-plugins-16.04.3
> > 1489518326: === Unmerging... (app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.14.2)
> > 1489518333:  >>> unmerge success: app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.14.2
> > 1489518333: === Unmerging... (sys-apps/paxctl-0.9)
> > 1489518339:  >>> unmerge success: sys-apps/paxctl-0.9
> > 1489518339: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebugdialog-16.04.3)
> > 1489518391:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebugdialog-16.04.3
> > 1489518391: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kimgio-16.04.3)
> > 1489518399:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kimgio-16.04.3
> > 1489518399: === Unmerging... (app-misc/geoclue-2.4.4)
> > 1489518405:  >>> unmerge success: app-misc/geoclue-2.4.4
> > 1489518405: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdesu-16.04.3)
> > 1489518413:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdesu-16.04.3
> > 1489518413: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kfile-16.04.3)
> > 1489518421:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kfile-16.04.3
> > 1489518421: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/phonon-kde-16.04.3)
> > 1489518431:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/phonon-kde-16.04.3
> > 1489518431: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kstart-16.04.3)
> > 1489518440:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kstart-16.04.3
> > 1489518440: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kmimetypefinder-16.04.3)
> > 1489518448:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kmimetypefinder-16.04.3
> > 1489518448: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kpasswdserver-16.04.3)
> > 1489518457:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kpasswdserver-16.04.3
> > 1489518457: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kquitapp-16.04.3)
> > 1489518467:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kquitapp-16.04.3
> > 1489518467: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebase-data-16.04.3)
> > 1489518477:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebase-data-16.04.3
> > 1489518477: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/keditfiletype-16.04.3)
> > 1489518485:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/keditfiletype-16.04.3
> > 1489518485: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kiconfinder-16.04.3)
> > 1489518493:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kiconfinder-16.04.3
> > 1489518493: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/solid-runtime-16.04.3)
> > 1489518500:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/solid-runtime-16.04.3
> > 1489518500: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/knewstuff-16.04.3)
> > 1489518509:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/knewstuff-16.04.3
> > 1489518509: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdontchangethehostname-16.04.3)
> > 1489518516:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdontchangethehostname-16.04.3
> > 1489518516: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebase-desktoptheme-16.04.3)
> > 1489518524:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebase-desktoptheme-16.04.3
> > 1489518524: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebase-menu-icons-16.04.3)
> > 1489518532:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebase-menu-icons-16.04.3
> > 1489518532: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/ktraderclient-16.04.3)
> > 1489518541:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/ktraderclient-16.04.3
> > 1489518541: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kreadconfig-16.04.3)
> > 1489518549:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kreadconfig-16.04.3
> > 1489518549: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/plasma-runtime-16.04.3)
> > 1489518560:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/plasma-runtime-16.04.3
> > 1489518560: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/knotify-16.04.3)
> > 1489518569:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/knotify-16.04.3
> > 1489518569: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kcmshell-16.04.3)
> > 1489518578:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kcmshell-16.04.3
> > 1489518578: === Unmerging... (kde-apps/kdebase-menu-16.04.3)
> > 1489518586:  >>> unmerge success: kde-apps/kdebase-menu-16.04.3
> > 1489518586: === Unmerging... (dev-libs/json-glib-1.2.2)
> > 1489518593:  >>> unmerge success: dev-libs/json-glib-1.2.2
> > 1489518593: === Unmerging... (sys-devel/binutils-2.25.1-r1)
> > 1489518602:  >>> unmerge success: sys-devel/binutils-2.25.1-r1
> > 1489518602: === Unmerging... (sys-apps/keyutils-1.5.9-r1)
> > 1489518608:  >>> unmerge success: sys-apps/keyutils-1.5.9-r1
> > 1489518608: === Unmerging... (kde-frameworks/kactivities-4.13.3-r2)
> > 1489518616:  >>> unmerge success: kde-frameworks/kactivities-4.13.3-r2
> > 1489518616: === Unmerging... (dev-libs/libverto-0.2.5-r1)
> > 1489518622:  >>> unmerge success: dev-libs/libverto-0.2.5-r1
> > 1489518622: === Unmerging... (dev-libs/libev-4.23)
> > 1489518628:  >>> unmerge success: dev-libs/libev-4.23
> > 1489518628:  *** exiting successfully.
> > 1489518629:  *** terminating.
> > 
> > On another box I did not notice this behaviour, but there are some
> > differences between them in terms of applications installed.  Both have
> > the same portage profile:
> > 
> > default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/plasma
> > 
> > Is it a matter of waiting for a while for the new KDE apps to move into
> > stable, or should I be reinstalling some of the above packages?
> 
> Make this box's world, USE, masks etc the same as that box
> 
> Next version might fix things but that's likely very wishful thinking.
> More likely portage took away something you need because you didn't say
> to keep it

Yes, I expect it did take away some package(s) which however would not have 
been in my world file in the first place and @preserved-rebuild didn't bring 
them back.  If they were important dependencies why were they taken away now?

Checking build time dependencies I do not see anything which would stop 
Konqueror working with ftp/fish protocols:

# emerge -uaDv --with-bdeps y world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U  ] dev-util/re2c-0.16::gentoo [0.13.7.5::gentoo] 4,778 KiB
[ebuild     U  ] dev-util/scons-2.4.1::gentoo [2.3.5::gentoo] USE="-doc" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 (-pypy)" 625 KiB
[ebuild     U  ] dev-lang/swig-3.0.8::gentoo [3.0.5::gentoo] USE="pcre -ccache 
-doc" 7,752 KiB
[ebuild     U  ] dev-python/m2crypto-0.24.0::gentoo [0.22.3-r4::gentoo] 
USE="(-libressl)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 181 KiB
[ebuild  rR    ] app-text/libmwaw-0.3.8::gentoo  USE="-doc -static-libs" 0 KiB
[ebuild     U  ] x11-libs/libXfont-1.5.2::gentoo [1.5.1::gentoo] USE="bzip2 
ipv6 truetype -doc -static-libs" 518 KiB

I'll compare world and USE flags between the two machines when I get a moment, 
but I expect there will be quite a few differences anyway, because they have 
been built to perform different roles.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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