On 08/30/2017 04:39 PM, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote:
> I do not want to start a whole systemd storm, glad i was offline for
> that.  however, in my case i'd really like to avoid systemd.  can i
> setup with out systemd, or do i need to remove and patch later. 

If you follow the handbook and skip the parts that say "if you want to
use systemd..." then you'll end up without systemd.

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