So, is there either a boot loader that a human can configure manually that can 
handle LUKS partitions?  No uefi, but GPT would be nice.  The grub2 
"documentation"  Reads like someone in the later stages of alzheimers' trying 
to tell you how to get to the moon from scratch?  The grub "legacy" manual was 
at least usefull, the grub2 manual is incoherent and has no logical structure 
or explanations in it.  It's insane that a boot loader takes 60 pages to 
document without actually explaning itself, barely useful as a reference IF you 
new it anyway.

Grub2 produces insanely huge configuration files, stuffed with conditionals.  
It's obvious even the automatic tools don't know how to configure it, It can't 
figure out how to boot redcore, on the same drive though it thinks it can.  It 
thinks you might want to try one version of linux with the ram disk and kernel 
from another, which doesn't work very well and WHY?

any links to sane documentation or  sane bootloaders greatly appreciated, it'll 
be months before i can work on my own bootloader or extend one that makes sense 
out side of a corporate server farm or randomly assorted desktops that have to 
all work with the same config file (possibly because grub2 is deciding how to 
work every time it loads).

Yeah, I hate grub2.  I"m very willing to learn gentoo,  but it does make some 
sense and there are articles that actually explain things online.  I can't find 
anything usefull about grub2 other than "DON'T MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE", if 
it's not human editable and understandable why even bother to have it in human 
readable text?


"Would you like to see us rule again, my friend?   All you have to do is follow 
the worms."  Pink Floyd, The Wall, Waiting for the worms


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