On Monday 07 November 2005 15:22, Qian Qiao wrote: > On 11/7/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > b.n. wrote: > > >> Polite and respectful. > > > > > > They don't look that much. > > > > Well, I always thought that using the words like "please" is a sign > > of respect to others. On the other side, some of replies included > > phrases like "...it bloody matters!..." or "how the hell would we > > know...!" or "Jarry needs variable BRAVE_YET_DUMB=1". Although > > such words do not sound good to me, I would never dare to say their > > authors are arrogant... > > You are just brave and dumb. Take a look at how many people explained > or attempted to explain why running upgrades as cron jobs is a dumb > thing do to, and you simply neglected them. To make things worse, you > stated: "I prefer rather breaking some dependencies in my system, over > leaving some security hole in it". Which is plain bs. At the risk of of adding to the flames here, perhaps an example is in order.... I once worked as a sysadmin for a guy who firmly believed in security. To prevent any security holes from lingering, he did an apt-get update out of cron every friday night....on production servers (we were running debian). The instance of us having to spend monday fixing what broke friday was about 10%. Unacceptable on a server. I don't even do that on my test systems. > > > I asked the question seriously. When I switched to gentoo, everybody > > told me "...c'mon, come'n'try gentoo, there are no versions like in > > redhat, suse or debian, it is always updated!...". Suddenly there are > > versions... > > > > (BTW, I wrote I was impressed by portage speed last week, during > > upgrade. It means I could not have old portage version) > > As well as brave and dumb, you are also ignorant. There are versions, > and it is clearly mentioned in the documentations. It's always > up-to-date doesn't mean there are no versions. There are no > *releases*, but there are versions. > > Back to the arrogance bit, people give you advices or suggestions, in > the hope that you could maintain your system better, you are perfectly > entitled to stick to your no-so-bright way, but you can't stop us > thinking that defending those *wrong* ways are somewhat arrogant. > > Again, good luck with your server maintenance. > > -- Joe > > -- > There are 3 kinds of people in the world: > Those who can count, and those who can't.
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