nice :) that worked
$ newgrp vboxusers
$ newgrp users (to change gid back to users)
thank you all!

On Thursday 06 September 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Hello Robert Walter,
> 
> > i've added myself to the vboxusers group with "gpasswd -a robert
> > vboxusers". when i do a "id robert" with root i see the added group but
> > when i start a new xterm with user robert i'm still not added to the
> > new group. how do i make the changes take effekt without logout/login?
> > i thought there was a command but i can't remember nor find one :(
> 
> newgro vboxusers, but it only applies to the current shell (and anything
> launched from it). To have all applications see the change, you need to
> log into your desktop again.
> 
>
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