On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 16:02 -0400, Moshe Kamensky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for the help. The problem for me with this approach is that it 
> happens on a machine that I manage for my father on different continent.  
> I am afraid that if I do this all the settings for the desktop will 
> disappear, he will not know how to set this up, and I also won't know 
> since I don't understand the gnome configuration files. I will do it as 
> a last resort, but I would rather understand what happens, and fix it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Moshe
> 

I've done it on two of our PCs here.  The only side effects I've seen
are that a few of the gnome-panel applets disappear and I had a couple
of icons in a drawer on the panel go away, but that's it...
> * Marzan, Richard non Unisys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12/09/07 12:03]:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > 
> >     I came across the same problem. I believe it happened during an
> > upgrade or update of either gnome/gtk or libexpat. I know that the
> > execution of metacity and such settings are set in the .gnome* files. So
> > as a last resort without any help I just figured; why not just delete
> > the .gnome* directories with `rm -rf .gnome2 .gnome .gnome2_private` and
> > then restart X. I was shocked to have seen it work afterwards. I know
> > for a fact that certain programs regenerate their config dirs if they
> > don't exist and I believe that that is what happened. 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Moshe Kamensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:20 AM
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: metacity Woes
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I don't have a solution, just to mention that I have the same problem 
> > (with gnome-2.18.2-r1). I guess the starting point would be: Where goes 
> > the output (and error) of whatever script starts the gnome session? and 
> > where in the config files does it say that metacity should start?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Moshe
> > 
> > * Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11/09/07 21:27]:
> > > Every time I boot into Linux and log into GNOME I have to start
> > metacity
> > > manually by su'ing in a terminal and issuing a
> > > 
> > > # metacity &> /dev/null &
> > > 
> > > before I can get title bars and such that goes with it.  My wife's
> > > computer does the same thing.  Here's the info on my PC:
> > > 
> > > camille ~ # emerge --info
> > > Portage 2.1.2.12 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4,
> > > 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686)
> > > =================================================================
> > > System uname: 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
> > > Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
> > > Timestamp of tree: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:30:01 +0000
> > > distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port
> > 3632)
> > > [disabled]
> > > app-shells/bash:     3.2_p17
> > > dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
> > > dev-lang/python:     2.4.4-r4
> > > dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
> > > sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.9-r2
> > > sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.17
> > > sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61-r1
> > > sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2,
> > > 1.10
> > > sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
> > > sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
> > > sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.24
> > > virtual/os-headers:  2.6.17-r1
> > > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
> > > CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> > > CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer"
> > > CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> > > CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
> > /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind"
> > > CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf
> > /etc/php/apache2-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/
> > /etc/php/cgi-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/
> > /etc/php/cli-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/
> > /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c"
> > > CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer"
> > > DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
> > > FEATURES="distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict"
> > > GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo";
> > > LINGUAS="en fr es"
> > > MAKEOPTS="-j2"
> > > PKGDIR="/usr/portage-packages/camille"
> > > PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS="--human-readable"
> > > PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
> > > --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
> > > --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local
> > --exclude=/packages
> > > --filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
> > > PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
> > > PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
> > > PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
> > > SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
> > > USE="X alsa apache2 apm arts asterisk audiofile avi bash-completion
> > > berkdb bind-mysql bitmap-fonts browserplugin bzip2 candy cdr cgi cli
> > > cracklib crypt ctype cups dba dbus divx4linux doc dri dvb dvd dvdr
> > > dvdread eds emboss encode examples expat f77 ffmpeg flash foomaticdb
> > > fortran ftp gdbm gif glut gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 guile
> > hal
> > > iconv imap imlib ipv6 isdnlog ithreads ivtv jack jack-tempfs java
> > jikes
> > > joystick jpeg kde kerberos lib libclamav libg++ libwww lirc mad midi
> > > mikmod mmx mmx2 mmxext mode-owner motif mp3 mpeg mpm-leader mudflap
> > > mysql mythtv nas nautilus ncurses new-login nls nntp nsplugin
> > offensive
> > > ogg oggvorbis opengl openmp oss pam pcre pdf perl php png portaudio
> > ppds
> > > pppd python qt qt3 qt4 quicktime readline real reflection ruby samba
> > > sasl sdl seamonkey session slp snmp spell spl sql ssl svga syslog tcl
> > > tcltk tcpd threads tidy truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode
> > usb
> > > userlocales v4l v4l2 vorbis win32codecs x86 xml xml2 xorg xv zaptel
> > > zlib" ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy
> > dmix
> > > dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat
> > > linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol"
> > > ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev" KERNEL="linux"
> > > LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb
> > > ncurses text" LINGUAS="en fr es" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="apm ark
> > > chips cirrus cyrix dummy fbdev glint i128 i740 i810 imstt mach64 mga
> > > neomagic nsc nv r128 radeon rendition s3 s3virge savage siliconmotion
> > > sis sisusb tdfx tga trident tseng v4l vesa vga via vmware voodoo"
> > > Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL,
> > > LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS
> > > 
> > > camille ~ # emerge -pv metacity gnome
> > > 
> > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> > > 
> > > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > > [ebuild   R   ] x11-wm/metacity-2.18.5  USE="-debug -xinerama" 0 kB 
> > > [ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-2.18.2-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr
> > > -accessibility -ldap -mono" 0 kB 
> > > 
> > > Total: 2 packages (2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> > > 
> > > The same thing happens on my wife's PC.  Here's the info for her
> > > computer:
> > > 
> > > catherine ~ # emerge --info
> > > Portage 2.1.2.12 (default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2,
> > > glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686)
> > > =================================================================
> > > System uname: 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686 AMD Sempron(tm) 2400+
> > > Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
> > > Timestamp of tree: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:30:01 +0000
> > > distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port
> > 3632)
> > > [disabled]
> > > app-shells/bash:     3.2_p17
> > > dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
> > > dev-lang/python:     2.4.4-r4
> > > dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
> > > sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.9-r2
> > > sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.17
> > > sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61-r1
> > > sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2,
> > > 1.10
> > > sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
> > > sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
> > > sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.24
> > > virtual/os-headers:  2.6.21
> > > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
> > > CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> > > CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686"
> > > CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> > > CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
> > /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind"
> > > CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf
> > /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/
> > /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo
> > /etc/texmf/web2c"
> > > CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686"
> > > DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
> > > FEATURES="buildpkg distlocks fixpackages keepwork metadata-transfer
> > > sandbox sfperms strict"
> > > GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.osuosl.org/ http://adelie.polymtl.ca/
> > > ftp://gentoo.risq.qc.ca/
> > > ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/
> > > http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/
> > > ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo
> > > ftp://mirror.iawnet.sandia.gov/pub/gentoo/
> > > ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo http://gentoo.seren.com/gentoo
> > > http://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/
> > > http://cudlug.cudenver.edu/gentoo/
> > > ftp://cudlug.cudenver.edu/pub/mirrors/distributions/gentoo/
> > > http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/ ftp://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/
> > > http://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo
> > ftp://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo
> > > http://gentoo.netnitco.net
> > > ftp://gentoo.netnitco.net/pub/mirrors/gentoo/source/
> > > http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/gentoo/
> > > http://mirrors.acm.cs.rpi.edu/gentoo/
> > ftp://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/gentoo/
> > > ftp://gentoo.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/gentoo/
> > > http://gentoo.arcticnetwork.ca/
> > > http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo http://gentoo.llarian.net/
> > > ftp://gentoo.llarian.net/pub/gentoo http://gentoo.binarycompass.org
> > > http://gentoo.mirrored.ca/ ftp://gentoo.mirrored.ca/
> > > http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo ftp://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo
> > > http://gentoo.cs.lewisu.edu/gentoo/ ftp://linux.cs.lewisu.edu/gentoo/
> > > http://prometheus.cs.wmich.edu/gentoo
> > > http://modzer0.cs.uaf.edu/public/gentoo/
> > > http://mirror.usu.edu/mirrors/gentoo/
> > > ftp://mirror.usu.edu/mirrors/gentoo/ ftp://lug.mtu.edu/gentoo
> > > http://mirror.phy.olemiss.edu/mirror/gentoo
> > > http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/gentoo/
> > > ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/gentoo/
> > > http://gentoo.mirrors.easynews.com/linux/gentoo/
> > > http://gentoo.cites.uiuc.edu/pub/gentoo/
> > > ftp://gentoo.cites.uiuc.edu/pub/gentoo/
> > > ftp://ftp.wwc.edu/pub/mirrors/ftp.gentoo.org
> > > http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/gentoo/";
> > > LINGUAS="en"
> > > MAKEOPTS="-j2"
> > > PKGDIR="/usr/portage-packages/catherine"
> > > PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS="--human-readable"
> > > PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
> > > --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
> > > --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local
> > --exclude=/packages
> > > --filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
> > > PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
> > > PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
> > > PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
> > > SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
> > > USE="X acl acpi alsa apache2 apm arts audiofile avi berkdb
> > bitmap-fonts
> > > browserplugin bzip2 cairo candy cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus
> > > divx4linux doc dri dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd evo examples
> > > f77 fam firefox flash foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif glut gnome gpm
> > > gstreamer gtk gtk2 guile hal iconv imap imlib ipv6 isdnlog jack java
> > > jpeg kde kerberos libg++ libwww mad midi mikmod mmx mmx2 mmxext motif
> > > mp3 mpeg mudflap mysql nas ncurses new-login nls nntp nptl nptlonly
> > > nsplugin offensive ogg oggvorbis opengl openmp oss pam pcre pdf pdflib
> > > perl php png ppds pppd python qt qt3 qt3support qt4 quicktime readline
> > > real reflection ruby sasl sdl seamonkey sendmail session slp snmp
> > spell
> > > spl ssl svg svga syslog tcltk tcpd thesaurus threads tidy tiff
> > truetype
> > > truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb v4l v4l2 vorbis win32codecs x86
> > > xml xml2 xorg xv zlib" ALSA_CARDS="intel8x0" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm
> > > alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958
> > ioplug
> > > ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm
> > > softvol" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev"
> > > KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216
> > > lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LINGUAS="en" USERLAND="GNU"
> > > VIDEO_CARDS="sis"
> > > Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL,
> > > LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS
> > > 
> > > catherine ~ # emerge -pv metacity gnome
> > > 
> > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> > > 
> > > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > > [ebuild   R   ] x11-wm/metacity-2.18.5  USE="-debug -xinerama" 0 kB 
> > > [ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-2.16.3  USE="cdr cups dvdr hal
> > > -accessibility -ldap" 0 kB 
> > > 
> > > Total: 2 packages (2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> > > 
> > > On camille I have re-merged metacity and emerge --emptytree gnome and
> > > neither one helped.  It's quite annoying everytime we log in having to
> > > manually start metacity as other things open up that we have to close
> > in
> > > order to get to the gnome-terminal.  Can anyone give me any advice on
> > > how to fix this?
> > > 
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